If the U.S went under Martial law...

[MorningGlory]

 

...And the government would try to take your weapons away, would you surrender them?

Firstly one would need to know precisely why the government has opted for martial law, and secondly surrender of weapons is not the only option. Those who know that the government will use heavy-handed tactics will find ways to ensure that they have alternatives.  For example, many Americans have literally given up their citizenship and moved off.

 

That's kind of a dumb solution....where can you go where you have MORE freedom than the U.S.?  I can't thinnk of anywhere on the planet myself.

[Hall7]

 

 

...And the government would try to take your weapons away, would you surrender them?

Firstly one would need to know precisely why the government has opted for martial law, and secondly surrender of weapons is not the only option. Those who know that the government will use heavy-handed tactics will find ways to ensure that they have alternatives.  For example, many Americans have literally given up their citizenship and moved off.

 

where can you go where you have MORE freedom than the U.S.?  I can't thinnk of anywhere on the planet myself.

 

Somewhere living off the land in the hidden remote bush? It's possible.

[MorningGlory]

 

 

 

...And the government would try to take your weapons away, would you surrender them?

Firstly one would need to know precisely why the government has opted for martial law, and secondly surrender of weapons is not the only option. Those who know that the government will use heavy-handed tactics will find ways to ensure that they have alternatives.  For example, many Americans have literally given up their citizenship and moved off.

 

where can you go where you have MORE freedom than the U.S.?  I can't thinnk of anywhere on the planet myself.

 

Somewhere living off the land in the hidden remote bush? It's possible.

 

In our world you would have to move to an uninhabited area (sneak into a country?) and just try to survive.  Doesn't sound like freedom to me. 

[JustinM]

I disagree that people are showing a lack of faith in God by taking up arms to defend themselves.  It takes a lot of faith to become a shepherd that is willing to watch over the flock.

 

I also know that in the world there are sheep and there are shepherds.  The shepherds defend the flock, but they aren't able to protect every sheep, every now and then a sheep will be taken by a predator.  I don't want to be the sheep that is taken.  I also don't want to be a sheep that relies on a shepherd to protect me when I am fully capable of being a shepherd myself.

 

To all that are willing and able, it is your duty to protect the church and the temple of the holy spirit from evil and wicked men/deeds.

[The_Patriot21]

There are 3 kinds of people in the world, sheep, wolves, and sheep dogs. The sheep are those who either are unable or unwilling to protect themselves. The wolves are those that feed upon the sheep. And then there are the sheep dogs. We all know that God is the shepherd-and we know that God often uses people here on earth to carry out His will. The sheepdogs are those who are willing to stand up to the wolves to protect the sheep.

Which are you?

[missmuffet]

I disagree that people are showing a lack of faith in God by taking up arms to defend themselves.  It takes a lot of faith to become a shepherd that is willing to watch over the flock.

 

I also know that in the world there are sheep and there are shepherds.  The shepherds defend the flock, but they aren't able to protect every sheep, every now and then a sheep will be taken by a predator.  I don't want to be the sheep that is taken.  I also don't want to be a sheep that relies on a shepherd to protect me when I am fully capable of being a shepherd myself.

 

To all that are willing and able, it is your duty to protect the church and the temple of the holy spirit from evil and wicked men/deeds.

I think that gdemoss brings up an important point.It is an excellent exercise in faith to put everything in God's hands and that includes our safety.

[other one]

can you look around the world viewing what's happening and really expect God to protect you from ISIS when they come here.....    what makes any of us better than what's happening across the hot spots in the world.

 

God gave us a brain and I do think he expects us to us it.....   

[wingnut-]

I think what this thread shows is that it comes down to personal conviction.  Some people feel that violence has no place in their future, there is nothing wrong with that, and it is actually comforting to know there are people who feel that way.  Others feel that standing up is the right thing to do, and that is comforting as well.  Neither side is wrong, scripture indicates that even in the end this will be the case.

 

 

Revelation 13:⁹ If anyone has an ear, let him hear. ¹⁰ If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

 

 

Verse 10 says it all, and what it doesn't say is that one group is superior to the other.  God bless.

[The_Patriot21]

 

I disagree that people are showing a lack of faith in God by taking up arms to defend themselves.  It takes a lot of faith to become a shepherd that is willing to watch over the flock.

 

I also know that in the world there are sheep and there are shepherds.  The shepherds defend the flock, but they aren't able to protect every sheep, every now and then a sheep will be taken by a predator.  I don't want to be the sheep that is taken.  I also don't want to be a sheep that relies on a shepherd to protect me when I am fully capable of being a shepherd myself.

 

To all that are willing and able, it is your duty to protect the church and the temple of the holy spirit from evil and wicked men/deeds.

I think that gdemoss brings up an important point.It is an excellent exercise in faith to put everything in God's hands and that includes our safety.

 

I agree God protects His own-but he often, in fact most times, uses people, to protect His own. How can He use people, if His people arnt willing to be used?

[Hall7]

There are 3 kinds of people in the world, sheep, wolves, and sheep dogs. The sheep are those who either are unable or unwilling to protect themselves. The wolves are those that feed upon the sheep. And then there are the sheep dogs.

I heard that saying in a movie before, it pretty much is the way it is. I've always been a protector of the weak, never owned a fire arm though, been wanting to get one for hiking in the mountains. I have faith in the Lord protecting me, but as faith fluctuates, there are days I'd feel safer hiking with a fire arm.