Can you loose your salvation

[Ezra]

Had Judas not repented,would he still be saved?

Who says Judas was saved?  Certainly not the Bible.

[Ezra]

I can't see how one can have free will and not have the freedom to turn away from God after turning to Him.

Then you don't really understand the New Birth.  Back to square one.

[Guest shiloh357]

No, according to Scripture, they can't.

What scripture are you referring?

 

 

The truth is that none of us is worthy (Romans 3:10) and therefore our salvation is not based on our worthiness. It’s based on the Lord’s faithfulness. He promised to die for our sins so we could live with Him, and then He did what He promised to do. Believing that is all that’s necessary for us (John 3:16, John 6:28-29). When we believe He marks us with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance (Ephesians 1:13-14, 2 Cor. 1:21-22).

In these two references, Paul explained that it’s a cause and effect relationship. The cause is our belief that Jesus died for our sins, and the effect is His guarantee of our inheritance, which is eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14 say this relationship takes effect when we hear the gospel and believe it. In other words, when we’re first saved.

2 Cor. 1:21-22 adds that it is God who makes us stand firm in Christ (not us). He anointed us, set His mark of ownership on us and put His Spirit in our hearts. This is His guarantee of what is to come. These are the clearest statements of our security in the Lord anywhere in Scripture. Together they tell us that OSAS is like gravity in that it applies to all of us whether we believe in it or not. This is why Jesus could promise that no one can take us out of His Hands (John 10:27-30).

Had Judas not repented,would he still be saved?

Judas, given his entire profile in Scripture was not a believer to start with. So he could not have lost anything he didn't already have in the first place.

[peacemakerIND]

Bible is very clear...

1. Salvation is fixed ... 

Heb 9:14  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 

This is why Jesus died for us.. His blood is giving new birth to us.. Who are truly born again.. they won't loose the salvation.. 

They born not from flesh ,, but from spirit and God.. 

Joh 1:12  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 
Joh 1:13  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 

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Judas is not born again.. 

if he truly repented he need to come to the place where Jesus crucified..

But he went to suicide .. killing himself not good.. that is also sin.. suicide is accepting the defeat.. which is will of Satan.. 

So Judas goes to hell.. no chance to have salvation.. 

 

 

[Guest Not Lost]

Can a born again person loose his salvation? How do you know if you are really born again?

Of course you can lose your salvation, just reject God, and continue your life without remorse. Sorry to say, this happens way too much.

 

You were born again when you recognized your sins, knowing that you can never atone for them, and trusting in Jesus to wash them away.

Salvation requires a lifetime commitment to God by trying to walk like Jesus. But you may stumble 10000 times or more... 

You are just not capable of living a perfect life. Satan will lie to you, and say that each and every stumble takes you further from God, so why bother?

But every time you stumble forward, instead of looking backwards,  you are trying your very best for God. Jesus will be there to testify your heart!

[thereselittleflower]

 

I can't see how one can have free will and not have the freedom to turn away from God after turning to Him.

Then you don't really understand the New Birth.  Back to square one.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

[JohnD]

Luke 22:3 (NASB95)

3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve.

John 13:26–27 (NASB95)

26 Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

27 After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, “What you do, do quickly.”

This is not a saved person.

Edited October 25, 2015 by JohnD

[Littlelambseativy]

Jesus said those that the Father gave Him He has not lost one.  Yes, OSAS.

If they are truly born again, they are saved for eternity. If they walk away they were never really saved. 

Do we as born again need to ask God to forgive us when we sin?... Absolutely!! We are human and sin though born again...that is why we are told to pray as Jesus taught His disciples in the Lord's Prayer.

 

[n2thelight]

Luke 22:3 (NASB95)

3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve.

John 13:26–27 (NASB95)

26 Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

27 After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, “What you do, do quickly.”

This is not a saved person.

Matt 16:23...So was Peter saved? And Judas did repent, does not forgiveness come from repentance? And on a deeper note,Judas was murdered 

Edited October 26, 2015 by n2thelight

[JohnD]

Luke 22:3 (NASB95)

3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve.

John 13:26–27 (NASB95)

26 Jesus then answered, “That is the one for whom I shall dip the morsel and give it to him.” So when He had dipped the morsel, He took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.

27 After the morsel, Satan then entered into him. Therefore Jesus said to him, “What you do, do quickly.”

This is not a saved person.

Matt 16:23...So was Peter saved? And Judas did repent, does not forgiveness come from repentance? And on a deeper note,Judas was murdered 

Satan in the body of Judas tried to stop the crucifixion by going to the priests of the Sanhedrin once he realized the death of Jesus was what God intended all along and the devil played right into his hand. It was not repentance it was feigned remorse. He reacted violently when the Sanhedrin essentially laughed him off. And Judas the man hanged himself because of the rage of the devil within. Otherwise, why would Judas not try to go to the Romans to stop the execution (if he were truly repenting)?