9/11, structural steel.

[simplejeff]

8 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

If you honestly believe what your saying is true, then you would have no problem presenting evidence.

You're not necessarily a liar.  Not on purpose anyway.  Neither is ss.

I was watching the news live when the second plane hit ... I thought for a minute or 3 that it was a movie because  I caught the broadcast on antenna tv  right at the moment they showed the plane come into view and hit.

There is so much the usa / politic/ education/ medic/ phrmk/ economic/ has indeed covered up, 

it would be no surprise either way - so what ?  Yahweh punishes all those who seek harm against Israel, and HE USES whatever HE wants to use to do so.

Just less than 48 hours earlier, according to PRO-ISRAEL sites, the usa had done something serious to HARM ISRAEL.

((same as when the 'natural' tsunami hit japan - they had just done likewise previous to the tsunami;   Yahweh can use natural , spiritual, whatever and everything in line with His WORD to do HIS BIDDING.))

trust the human government? no good.

trust the conspiracy theory ? no good.

trust whatever human agency ? no good. TEST TEST TEST until proven true by God's WORD True.

HE IS FAITHFUL .

[SINNERSAVED]

4 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

but, i guess if you really want to have the last word, go for it. I wont bother replying to you anymore. Having the last word wont make your argument anymore factual, but if you want to have the last word, knock yourself out. Without your presenting any evidence for your cause, then all we have is my evidence-which makes this entire discussion one sided, and rather pointless to continue anyway. So if it will make you feel better, i will let you have the last word. God bless.

you have avoided  and dismissed all that was there, and you say that its not proven , just like the video you talked about, it is false,

but lets say that you can melt steal to water, ,but how will you bring concrete to dust, from 120 stories or so to the ground, in less then two hours, and become dust, make that two buildings , to dust, with in two hours each and then how do you say that the video with the cars, are with a polish paint  jobs un touched, on one half and the engine completely melted in the front half, and not have burn marks on the rear paint job, lets be for real, and see it for what it is, you cannot prove this is not possible , for in fact it is what was left as witnessed and photo , you do not have a leg to stand on, so this is my last word, thank you

[Guest Robert]

My last word on this: too many out there love "conspiracy theories".  What you don't realize is that it only serves as fodder to destabilize people who are already not very tightly wrapped, and can potentially send them over the edge. Not to mention the ones who originally proposed these theories most likely do not believe them themselves, and rake in cash by selling their books, videos and "survival gear" (usually overpriced items you can find at any good army/navy supply). I've been in these kinds of discussions before, and hard as anyone tries, those who adhere to the theories will not listen to anything but those theories. All that is left is for the the Lord to set the record straight when it comes time for the judgment.

I just hope when He does, we listen. Many will NOT like what He has to say....

[kwikphilly]

Hey Pat,,,,,,,(or anyone,maybe other one?)

     I have no doubt about this video,,,,,,what I do wonder about (or have in the past) is the amount of ash or debris that was carted away simply did not add up to what there should have been,,,,,,,now,I must say,,it is waaay too long ago for me to remember all the "credible" specialists that sort of made this seem like a "fact",,,,,,,,know anything about that? I'm really not very good at looking up stuff on the computer & I guess we would have to have videos approved anyway BUT,do you recall any of what I am saying?                                                Love ya,Kwik

    

[The_Patriot21]

13 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Hey Pat,,,,,,,(or anyone,maybe other one?)

     I have no doubt about this video,,,,,,what I do wonder about (or have in the past) is the amount of ash or debris that was carted away simply did not add up to what there should have been,,,,,,,now,I must say,,it is waaay too long ago for me to remember all the "credible" specialists that sort of made this seem like a "fact",,,,,,,,know anything about that? I'm really not very good at looking up stuff on the computer & I guess we would have to have videos approved anyway BUT,do you recall any of what I am saying?                                                Love ya,Kwik

    

I assure you, that regardless of what brought the towers down-be it explosives or planes, the amount of debris hauled away matched perfectly the amount that should have been. Either way, the buildings fell, and either way, there would be pretty much an equal amount of debris. Im sure that is something both sides can agree on.

[MorningGlory]

19 hours ago, RobertS said:

My last word on this: too many out there love "conspiracy theories".  What you don't realize is that it only serves as fodder to destabilize people who are already not very tightly wrapped, and can potentially send them over the edge. Not to mention the ones who originally proposed these theories most likely do not believe them themselves, and rake in cash by selling their books, videos and "survival gear" (usually overpriced items you can find at any good army/navy supply). I've been in these kinds of discussions before, and hard as anyone tries, those who adhere to the theories will not listen to anything but those theories. All that is left is for the the Lord to set the record straight when it comes time for the judgment.

I just hope when He does, we listen. Many will NOT like what He has to say....

I applaud a voice of reason, Robert.  We need a few more here. 

[MorningGlory]

On 2/3/2016 at 9:47 PM, simplejeff said:

so.

Just less than 48 hours earlier, according to PRO-ISRAEL sites, the usa had done something serious to HARM ISRAEL.

 

What did they do to harm Israel? 

[kwikphilly]

Hi Pat

Quote

 assure you, that regardless of what brought the towers down-be it explosives or planes, the amount of debris hauled away matched perfectly the amount that should have been. Either way, the buildings fell, and either way, there would be pretty much an equal amount of debris. Im sure that is something both sides can agree on.

Yes,it would make good sense Pat,I agree,,,,,,it would not matter in the least WHY the Towers (& all the buildings) came down,,,,,,,1 & 1 would still HAVE TO equal 2,that's was the entire basis of my question,,,,,,I'm not saying that it did not add up ,I'm just remembering that was a big deal that left a lot of inquiring minds asking questions ,,,,,,,,,there was a lot said that it DID NOT add up,,,,,,,in fact,they estimated(as I said earlier on) it was going to take "X" amount of time to cart away,because of the massive tonnage of debris & ash,when it literally took less than half the time because it was not nearly what it SHOULD have been,,,,,,

I'm only asking if anyone else remembers any of that or has any (credible) information on the FACTS,,,,,,,,,,,,Personally Brother,I can't rationalize any of the conspiracy or cover up theories in my head.......I saw what I saw,I don't believe I "thought" I saw what I saw or what it appeared to be,I heard many a story of fireman & volunteers saying there was no intense  "heat" & yet my own relatives who were THERE said it was intensely hot,as it should have been ,,,,,,,,,they also witnessed people jumping from the towering inferno ,opposite of the "vaporize" theory  

I cannot make heads or tails of what happened there,there are many "odd" things about the whole ordeal but nothing in question in regards to your OP,thats the simple truth                                     Love,Kwik    

[The_Patriot21]

ive "heard" that argument as well, and its about as ridiculous as the "there was no airplanes" and "the fire couldn't be hot enough." theyre ridiculous arguments, and then they get mad when people laugh at them and won't take them seriously.

[Omegaman 3.0]

Was just reading how one of the parameters we are supposed to be using when posting videos, is that it me Christ honoring, not just cute or interesting video that we could find on YouTube or Facebook. The idea is that this site is a ministry, and the videos here should reflect that. We admins have been way short of maintaining that standard.

This video, it seems to me, falls short in this area, and if anything, not only does the video in no way honor Christ, it seemed to stir up contention within the body. I know there are scores, even hundreds of videos here, which do not measure up. Some of them I approved, some I even posted myself. The approval process takes time, we have to watch a video, before we can approve it. This is very time consuming for the admins, and I encourage people to consider that before posting videos. Videos over 10 minutes long, I know I will often avoid approving for a long time, just because of the time involved. Some users seem to take joy especially, in posting music videos. At times this is an edgy practice in the copyright sense, and while it is easy to 'paste-click-post' a video, it is not so effortless for the staff that has to approve them all.

In the case of this 'melting steel' video, it probably really has no place here. Because of that, and because the "fire has died down", I am going to lock the thread not. I should probably delete it, it and hundres more, about puppies and cats, recipes and comedy routines, political topics all other manners of videos outside of our guidelines. I won't however, my time is better used on other tasks, that hunting down and deleting videos that should never have been posted or approved in the first place. 

I will likely in the future, however, be a little more discimination with the website's use of resources, I would appreciate your help, by not posting videos that have no place here.