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[Ezra]

13 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

Blaming the Pope is just silliness and really all it does is reveal the depth of hatred some people have.    

Blaming the Pope is not silliness at all. Trying to defend his words is silliness. The Pope is one of those left-liberals who encouraged Europe to accept a flood of Muslim migrants.  His words do have a wide ranging impact on both Catholics and Muslims.  He has been pussy-footing around for a long time because he does not have the courage to call a spade a spade.  He believes (like deluded Obama) that Climate Change is a greater threat to the well-being of the world than Islamist terrorism. Therefore he is definitely responsible for what is now a nightmare in Europe (along with Angela Merkel and all the foolish politicians of Europe and North America).

[thereselittleflower]

6 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Blaming the Pope is not silliness at all. Trying to defend his words is silliness. The Pope is one of those left-liberals who encouraged Europe to accept a flood of Muslim migrants.  His words do have a wide ranging impact on both Catholics and Muslims.  He has been pussy-footing around for a long time because he does not have the courage to call a spade a spade.  He believes (like deluded Obama) that Climate Change is a greater threat to the well-being of the world than Islamist terrorism. Therefore he is definitely responsible for what is now a nightmare in Europe (along with Angela Merkel and all the foolish politicians of Europe and North America).

That doesn't make the Pope responsible even if you are right that he is "one of those" - then he is only "one" of those, not "the one" responsible.

Hatred, not love,  leads people to make slanderous accusations and character assassination, and this leads one spiritually down a dangerous path.

[OldSchool2]

12 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Blaming the Pope is not silliness at all. Trying to defend his words is silliness. The Pope is one of those left-liberals who encouraged Europe to accept a flood of Muslim migrants.  His words do have a wide ranging impact on both Catholics and Muslims....

I doubt what the Pope has to say has much of an impact on Muslims or Merkel -- a Lutheran minister's daughter who decided to allow an army of unaccompanied young Muslim males from repressive Islamic societies into an open culture where both alcohol and "immodest" infidel women are now easily available to them.

[Ezra]

51 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

I doubt what the Pope has to say has much of an impact on Muslims or Merkel -- a Lutheran minister's daughter who decided to allow an army of unaccompanied young Muslim males from repressive Islamic societies into an open culture where both alcohol and "immodest" infidel women are now easily available to them.

Obviously neither of you want to hold the Pope accountable for anything (just like Obama who gets a pass no matter what he does). But the Pope called on Europe's Catholics to take in refugees. You think they ignored him? And do you really think Merkel ignored him. Read for yourself.

Issuing a broad appeal to Europe’s Catholics, Pope Francis on Sunday called on “every” parish, religious community, monastery and sanctuary to take in one refugee family — an appeal that, if honored, would offer shelter to tens of thousands.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/refugees-keep-streaming-into-europe-as-crisis-continues-unabated/2015/09/06/8a330572-5345-11e5-b225-90edbd49f362_story.html

[MorningGlory]

3 hours ago, Ezra said:

Blaming the Pope is not silliness at all. Trying to defend his words is silliness. The Pope is one of those left-liberals who encouraged Europe to accept a flood of Muslim migrants.  His words do have a wide ranging impact on both Catholics and Muslims.  He has been pussy-footing around for a long time because he does not have the courage to call a spade a spade.  He believes (like deluded Obama) that Climate Change is a greater threat to the well-being of the world than Islamist terrorism. Therefore he is definitely responsible for what is now a nightmare in Europe (along with Angela Merkel and all the foolish politicians of Europe and North America).

I also hold the Pope accountable for a lot of the PC nonsense like global warming, unfettered immigration and molly coddling islam.  I don't think it's because he's an evil man or trying to control the world; he's what you said; a liberal, leftist, anticapitalist, PC MAN.  He's not the catalyst for what's going on; he's just a part of it.

[MorningGlory]

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

I really doubt very much that anyone wants to associate with the groups he has associated himself in and with.

search terms online : <"billy graham" amish mennonites>

 ((this simply leads to the right information))

watch for "educate"

he is not what he seems at all.

 

What do you mean?  What's wrong with Billy Graham?

[SINNERSAVED]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

You are such a hypocrite, you throw around false accusations  continuously and calling people on this forum "haters"  of groups of people --WHICH IS a lie.    No one ever speaks with hate, or says they hate Catholics they obviously feel deep concern for people's souls instead.  But there you go accusing them of being "slanderers"  or "character assassination" of the Pope or bearing false witness ---when we/they state FACTS of what he says or has not said and trying to hold an adult debate about issues .  And there YOU are the first one to accuse anyone who disagrees with you of "bearing false witness" or you throw the threat that they better not Judge- Lest THEY be judged. 

Btw, The article submitted about what the Pope said --said it showed the Pope did NOT know what he was talking about and obviously did not know what was the content of the Koran that he was telling people to read.  Also, note that any Apostle of CHRIST would hold up JESUS CHRIST as LORD and the BIBLE as "The" only  WORD of GOD and would be concerned with saving peoples souls.  
 Also, I'd say the dangerous path is being misleading, deceitful and twisting scripture to validate your own agenda.

 

  

thank you for sharing the truth  sister, amen

[MorningGlory]

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Nothing at all if you want to be influenced or if you get along with the groups hehas associated with since about 1947.((and his son also more recently))

Remember, test everything - a lot that you've seen in your life is not at all what it seems.

The info has been available for over 20 years, some published by conservative churches in 1948-1950, but you'll have to do your own research IF you want to know the truth.

I heard about it around 15 or 20  years ago, but didn't put any stock in it with certainty UNTIL I heard billy and frnaklen say so publicly when they broadcast their own show on antenna tv.   ((again, you'll have to search, and take your time....  wouldn't want to get any wrong ideas too fast, would we ? ))

 

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Nothing at all if you want to be influenced or if you get along with the groups hehas associated with since about 1947.((and his son also more recently))

Remember, test everything - a lot that you've seen in your life is not at all what it seems.

The info has been available for over 20 years, some published by conservative churches in 1948-1950, but you'll have to do your own research IF you want to know the truth.

I heard about it around 15 or 20  years ago, but didn't put any stock in it with certainty UNTIL I heard billy and frnaklen say so publicly when they broadcast their own show on antenna tv.   ((again, you'll have to search, and take your time....  wouldn't want to get any wrong ideas too fast, would we ? ))

i'm going to admit I don't know a lot about Billy Graham; he is a couple of generations before my time.  Isn't he like a hundred years old? I am trying to not be close minded so I am going to check him out.  I know he has a son who's probably about 70 but I know nothing about him at all.

[MorningGlory]

Quick question: has anyone else noticed that the 'quote' feature is double quoting sometimes?

[OakWood]

13 hours ago, Thallasa said:

You are assuming too much Oakwood ,that I defend Islam and  that I know nothing about it .Not so .But over emotional posts which preach hatred are not helpful at all .Most people know very little really about history and the place of their religion ,and it's beliefs .Is that not in part why we are here ? Many of those born into Islam know very little about it ,and given the chance quite few might become christian ,but I have said this before, that bombing their countries ,stealing their oïl ,setting up dictators and then murdering them ,is that christian ? And what if that is all they ever know about christianity ,that and holywood and billions worth of porno .Don't you see that you cannot be a christian if you deny criticising  the west and yet always are detesting Islam . I am now in a town ,where abut 12% of the population is Moslem and it is the most peaceful place (the rest are cathoic or non believers )I have ever lived in . I am not fooled by the fact that in the long run the religion is false ,but then so are many so called christians who give a bad witness to their God ,Jesus Christ .

No one carries guns here ,there is no need to . I have lived in the U.K and known the hatred which often spouted out of 'actions' of a 'christian nation ' .

A lot of people here seem to think that Christ is a talisman ,which if you say aloud that you believe in him you are a Christian. I don't believe that ,and it is to ignore so much of scripture to think that .If your heart is not over time transformed bit by bit by letting Him do the work ,it means nothing . We must also be just, in our dealing with others .

At one time the Irish were The Hated, and the Blacks ,the Jews ,the Russians . When does it stop ? It stops when christians look closely at themselves, take responsibility for their actions of the past and the present and God will take care of the future .  

So for this thread Germany will sort out it's internal politics ,and each country must do the same ,but I am not afraid of 'them ', as I am more afraid of the West and it's weapons of mass destruction ,and much more . Being spyed on by American technology , yes even our president 's private phone ; thats what IS terrifying . Maybe in 60 years ,if God has not sorted it all out for us ,it will be a problem living in Islam ,but then I hope to be gone from here, long before .

I agree with you that not many Muslims know about their religion, but I balk at some of your other comments.

Since when have we been stealing their oil? As far as I am aware they get a good price for it. Are you one of those people who believes that everything the West does is stealing? In fact the Saudis for example are useless. It was our engineers who dug for the oil, developed the technology to build the pipelines and the rigs, while they just sat back and got rich from it.

Bombing them? Of course.... but there is a war on which they started. Do you also think that we bombed the poor, innocent Nazis during World War 2?

As for hatred of the Irish, the Blacks and the Russians.... there's no comparison. There was no justification in hating the Irish or the Blacks, they didn't strap suicide vests to themselves and try to kill innocent people. If people are wary of Muslims then it's only the Muslims themselves who are to blame for all this.

You appear to be a victim of 'moral relativism', the curse of modern thinking!