Biblical Calculations 2. ( the final 7 years).

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Montan Marv,

 

Good points there bro. Thank you for your interaction.

What do you think of the 2 extra months of Adar? Any thoughts?

 

Marilyn.

 

Marilyn

There are an extra 30 days and 45 days beyond the last 1,260 days according to Daniel 12:11.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[other one]

that's extra time for me to get my stuff together...

[ARGOSY]

6 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Argosy,

I do overlap those two numbers - 1260 = 42 = 3 1/2 years. Does that help. Also it`s great that you see the Lord dealing with Israel & the nations in the tribulation. So really it is just this 7 years which you see differently. However we will continue. I will soon post `Biblical Calculations 3 (the Final 7 days). Hope you find it interesting.

BTW What are your thoughts on the 2,300 days & the 2 extra months of Adar?

 

Marilyn.

 

I still notice that you consistently ignore commenting on the manner in which Jesus perfectly fits into the first half of Daniel 9:27.  He confirms a covenant. His ministry was 3.5 years long. He was the FINAL sacrificial lamb.  That was my first post to you in this thread, and I'm still waiting for a comment. Any acknowledgment the post exists?   It is highly relevant to this thread because your calculations relate to a 7 year period, I believe its only a 3.5 year period.

Regarding the extra two months of Adar and much of your other information, when I made the time to read your posts I found it all very interesting. I'm also interested in the manner in which the 1260 days, the 1290 days and the 1335 days interact, and you have given me some direction in that, much appreciated.  I am sure I can find some consensus there regarding the final 3.5 years.

Regarding your timeline that incorporates the 2300 days, I completely disagree on its relevance to the end-times.

1) The 2300 days belongs to Antiochus Epiphanes, Daniel 8 concerns ancient history and was already fulfilled

2) The Ezekiel war is the Armageddon war that ends this age. The 7 months therefore occur during the millenium.  When there are multiple overlaps between two prophetic events this is a good sign they are referring to the same event, and there are multiple overlaps of the Ezekiel war with the day of the Lord. 

 

[Marilyn C]

52 minutes ago, ARGOSY said:

 

I still notice that you consistently ignore commenting on the manner in which Jesus perfectly fits into the first half of Daniel 9:27.  He confirms a covenant. His ministry was 3.5 years long. He was the FINAL sacrificial lamb.  That was my first post to you in this thread, and I'm still waiting for a comment. Any acknowledgment the post exists?   It is highly relevant to this thread because your calculations relate to a 7 year period, I believe its only a 3.5 year period.

Regarding the extra two months of Adar and much of your other information, when I made the time to read your posts I found it all very interesting. I'm also interested in the manner in which the 1260 days, the 1290 days and the 1335 days interact, and you have given me some direction in that, much appreciated.  I am sure I can find some consensus there regarding the final 3.5 years.

 

 

Hi Argosy,

Sorry that you thought I was ignoring your comment re: 3.5 years, however I thought we had agreed that we thought differently on that. We had both had our say (on the 70 X 7 thread) & I thought we had left it at that.

Glad you found the Adar months interesting. I will go into more detail on the 3rd thread - the final 7 days.

Marilyn.

 

 

 

[Marilyn C]

5 hours ago, other one said:

that's extra time for me to get my stuff together...

Hi other one,

Sorry, no stuff allowed when we go to heaven.

Blessings bro. & enjoy your humour. Marilyn.

[Marilyn C]

5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Marilyn

There are an extra 30 days and 45 days beyond the last 1,260 days according to Daniel 12:11.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Hi Montana Marv,

Yes I agree according to Daniel 12: 11. Now any thoughts on what happens in those months, as per scripture?

Marilyn.

 

[ARGOSY]

30 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Argosy,

Sorry that you thought I was ignoring your comment re: 3.5 years, however I thought we had agreed that we thought differently on that. We had both had our say (on the 70 X 7 thread) & I thought we had left it at that.

Glad you found the Adar months interesting. I will go into more detail on the 3rd thread - the final 7 days.

Marilyn.

 

 

 

Hi Marilyn,

Our discussion in that thread centred on "the coming of the anointed one" and the exact timing of that moment. Much focus was on the triumphal entry..   That is the subject we thought differently on.

Even in that thread you did not discuss my view on how well Jesus fits into Daniel 9:27.  I mentioned it a few times there. In the end I thought that you felt that it was better discussed in this thread. So I moved that discussion into this thread. It ruins your 7 year theory, so I feel it needs addressing. If you don't want to talk about it, that's okay though. Some comment, any comment will do.

 

In addition, I have well thought out reasons to disagree with your theory on the 2300 days plus seven months. I mentioned how they should be correctly interpreted, hoping for some comment there too.

Edited January 29, 2016 by ARGOSY
Noticed parts of my post she ignored.

[Marilyn C]

Hi Argosy,

Thank you for explaining that. I will now reply concerning the 3.5 years. And why I didn`t go on to do the next part of your post, is that I like to do one part first & get feed back. I haven`t disregarded it but have put an mark next to it (I often copy out people`s comments so I can think & reply better). So, that`s to come yet bro. Do enjoy our chats by the way.

So to the 3.5 years. I can see why you are thinking how you do, but that is not my view, as you well know. The sacrifices are about to start again. Israel has bred the red heifer for the sacrifice & they are preparing the priests to do the right temple procedures. Also about `confirm the covenant,` Jesus is the Covenant & does not need to confirm anything.

 

The dates from the edict (Neh. 2: 1 - 8) Artaxerxes of Persia gives edict to rebuild Jerusalem  -------> Messiah appears as Prince (commander) Palm Sunday.

From March 5, 444 BC ---------------------(69 x 7 years)--------------------------------------> March 30, 33 AD.

 

I see exact measurements there, bro.

Prophetic - 483 years = 483 x 360 days.

Calendar - 476 x 365 . 242 + 25 days.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

 

 

[ARGOSY]

1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Argosy,

Thank you for explaining that. I will now reply concerning the 3.5 years. And why I didn`t go on to do the next part of your post, is that I like to do one part first & get feed back. I haven`t disregarded it but have put an mark next to it (I often copy out people`s comments so I can think & reply better). So, that`s to come yet bro. Do enjoy our chats by the way

Thanks I enjoy them too. Maybe next time just mention the portion you are saving for later. Otherwise it looks like you are avoiding points..

 

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So to the 3.5 years. I can see why you are thinking how you do, but that is not my view, as you well know. The sacrifices are about to start again. Israel has bred the red heifer for the sacrifice & they are preparing the priests to do the right temple procedures. Also about `confirm the covenant,` Jesus is the Covenant & does not need to confirm anything.

 

The dates from the edict (Neh. 2: 1 - 8) Artaxerxes of Persia gives edict to rebuild Jerusalem  -------> Messiah appears as Prince (commander) Palm Sunday.

From March 5, 444 BC ---------------------(69 x 7 years)--------------------------------------> March 30, 33 AD.

 

I see exact measurements there, bro.

Prophetic - 483 years = 483 x 360 days.

Calendar - 476 x 365 . 242 + 25 days.

 

 

Hmm are you here to discuss and adjust your view to the truth, or to teach your view as if it is already fact?  I sense you want to teach, not discuss.  You could be missing out on further truths that way.

There may well be sacrifices and a rebuilt temple. Its possible that the coming to power of the beast (Rev 13) is associated with the START of those sacrifices, not the ending of those sacrifices.  I believe its possible that those sacrifices still continue right until Armageddon and the second coming.   Regarding sacrifices, its a terrible thing, not a good thing, that Christians are helping to re-introduce that system that Christ came to replace. Regarding the temple, I have no problem helping the rebuilt temple, because although the antichrist will use it for his purposes, eventually God will reconsecrate that temple as per Ezekiel 4.0-45. And so the antichrist's works will be used to the glory of God, just as Herod's temple was used until 70AD

Its ironic that you use the decree of 444BC when you already know that Jewish years can be either 360 days long, or 390 days long due to the extra Adar every 6 years or so. To then pretend that all those Jewish years are only 360 days long to fit your theory of 444BC is inaccurate and you know it. By introducing the extra Adar , Jewish years are ALWAYS in line with our calendar over the long run, being specifically based on the month of Adar always representing early spring. As soon as the month of Adar starts drifting into winter due to their 360 day years they introduce a second Adar to keep Adar in spring.

So back to the 69 sevens, of Daniel 9. Knowing that Jewish years and our years average the same length over time, the correct decree to use is Artaxerxes decree of 458 BC which effectively restored the nation of Israel, giving Israel power over the surrounding administrators. This particular decree was issued to those adminstrators in the autumn of 458BC and exactly 483 years later, in the autumn of 26AD Jesus was baptised in the River Jordan and began his ministry. 

[Montana Marv]

9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Montana Marv,

Yes I agree according to Daniel 12: 11. Now any thoughts on what happens in those months, as per scripture?

Marilyn.

 

Marilyn

Yes:  The first 30 day period is the duration of the Battle of Armageddon.  Well over 1 Billion will die there, plus horses.  Look at the 200 Million out of the East.  In tight formation they occupy over 230 sq miles.  almost shoulder to shoulder, 2 feet in front and back.  Each horse and rider occupying about 40 sq feet each ( slightly larger than a 4x8 sheet of plywood)  Also it is about 700 miles from the Euphrates River to Armageddon.  If they averaged 25 miles a day, it would take them 28 days to get to Armageddon.

The next 45 days is the length of time for the Birds of the air to eat the flesh of those who died.  A lot of meat.

In Christ

Montana Marv