thereselittleflower Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.68 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, other one said: if standing by while someone rapes your wife and kids and then kills you all is what you call love, we really have so little in common why even talk to one another... your stand on this is sort of like throwing an arm full of rattle snakes in your babies crib and expecting God not to let the snakes hurt the Baby........ Have you not read that we should not tempt the Lord.... or as some versions say we should not put Him to the test... I don't know exactly what it is that you are trying to accomplish with your pacifism teachings, but that thought process will destroy western civilization, and what will replace it is right out of the pits of hell hand delivered by Allah himself. That's really uncharitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladypeartree Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 37 Topic Count: 542 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 33,054 Content Per Day: 5.06 Reputation: 23,882 Days Won: 238 Joined: 06/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1953 Share Posted January 26, 2016 charity begins at home ..... lots of publicity for people being told to wear bands on their wrists how much for those murdered by terrorists posing as refugees ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2016 45 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said: That's really uncharitable. reality often is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Im curious. For those who think people are terrible for not welcoming these refugees because its not "loving". Do you show love towards the citizens who face increased crime? Where is your love towards women when you welcome the refugees who tend to attack women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 18 hours ago, junobet said: That was my first association, too. They may not even have been meant that way, but the linked guardian-article, which reports that refugees suffered abuse and humiliation due to those wristbands, shows that they fostered a similar mindset to that of my Nazi-grandfather. So I’m glad authorities got wise and abandoned them. We should really learn from history. That is not a fair comparison, at all. Nor, is an intelligent one. The reason for the Star of David was to mark who was a Jew for the purpose of eliminating them from society. A Star of David marked you for death and eventual extermination, in addition to other forms of persecution. It was the result of a mindset that sought to dehumanize the Jews. The red wristband is to identify refugees, to keep track of them, not to persecute or humiliate them. Refugees are not immigrants. It is a temporary status and given the immense numbers of refugees coming from the Muslim world, and given the threat of ISIS infiltration, there needs to be way to keep track of them. While no one things that refugees should be persecuted, they should not be allowed to roam freely across the country. Refugees are only refugees until the conditions in their country of origin changes and they can go home. In order to provide for them properly, they need to be identified and that means we need a means of identification for them. They need to stay in the camps where they are safe and where they can be cared for until they can be sent back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Im curious. For those who think people are terrible for not welcoming these refugees because its not "loving". Do you show love towards the citizens who face increased crime? Where is your love towards women when you welcome the refugees who tend to attack women? Exactly.... That's the short sidedness of the liberal attempt to apply "love" to the refugee crisis. It is what Europe is facing now. The Liberal approach to "love" in this kind of situation forces you to choose between the attacker and the victim. It even requires a person to ignore the threat that many of the refugees who are terrorizing their host countries, pose to the citizenry. It's like the classic dilemma for a pacifist when it comes to defending one's family. They claim we can't respond violently the attacker because that would not be "loving your enemy." Yet they cannot really provide a satisfying response to who you should love more, your family members who are being attacked or the attacker? It shows what happens when verses of the Bible are cherry picked to suit a particular agenda without regard to context. Pacifism isn't "love." It is moral indifference to evil. It is even worse than hate. Pacifism enables and emboldens evil and leaves innocent people defenseless. Pacifism is an evil ideology. This issue in Europe is showing the failure of liberal "multiculturalism." It's a complete joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 19 hours ago, junobet said: Christ left us here having shown us that the way of God is love, asking us to follow in His footsteps rather than clinging to our worldly ideas of power, mammon, selfishness, hate and envy. We are to be the light of the world and the salt of the world by emulating Christ’s love for us in our love of neighbor, and clearly that includes love for refugees. “So be perfect,as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Mt. 5:48) People like you only serve to pervert what Jesus meant. All you seem to have to offer is Liberal slop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 hours ago, other one said: if standing by while someone rapes your wife and kids and then kills you all is what you call love, we really have so little in common why even talk to one another... your stand on this is sort of like throwing an arm full of rattle snakes in your babies crib and expecting God not to let the snakes hurt the Baby........ Have you not read that we should not tempt the Lord.... or as some versions say we should not put Him to the test... I don't know exactly what it is that you are trying to accomplish with your pacifism teachings, but that thought process will destroy western civilization, and what will replace it is right out of the pits of hell hand delivered by Allah himself. Yes. Pacifism is an anti-Christian teaching. You can love your enemy while keeping a constant eye on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 26, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: Exactly.... That's the short sidedness of the liberal attempt to apply "love" to the refugee crisis. It is what Europe is facing now. The Liberal approach to "love" in this kind of situation forces you to choose between the attacker and the victim. It even requires a person to ignore the threat that many of the refugees who are terrorizing their host countries, pose to the citizenry. It's like the classic dilemma for a pacifist when it comes to defending one's family. They claim we can't respond violently the attacker because that would not be "loving your enemy." Yet they cannot really provide a satisfying response to who you should love more, your family members who are being attacked or the attacker? It shows what happens when verses of the Bible are cherry picked to suit a particular agenda without regard to context. This issue in Europe is showing the failure of liberal "multiculturalism." It's a complete joke. Shiloh, you put it into words! I've been trying to figure out why pacifism is so appalling to me and there it is. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Davida said: Another hollow comment , tossing in a word from the Bible to "have the appearance of righteousness" using it as a false accusation. Kinda like the kiss of Judas, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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