If life is in the blood, does God allow blood transfusions ?

[simplejeff]

That's not what Yahweh/Jesus/Scripture/Spirit says to do, nor what to learn.

It is distracting from truth, and a moot point also.

Admittedly, it may take decades to learn and Yahweh

permits things to happen anyway, 

like blood transfusions, 

even if they're not 'profitable'. 

[Sister]

1 hour ago, SINNERSAVED said:

thank you for that honest and truthful answer, many times, there are questions to be asked, but it is hard, and so how will you know ? if you do not ask, it is okay to ask, if you have a question, and there is a few things still today that amazes me,

 when some will think you are crazy , or going against God, for asking a question, that needs to be answered, and yet, will willfully Sin,

 due to the fact of lack of knowledge, so we see this all the time, , so I could use more input, on this topic, it is something to think about, and your answer is good , and  a honest one, thank you  Sister  blessings to you ,

Sinnersaved

If you really must know, I went into labour.  I told the nurse if by any chance an emergency occurs, you do not have my permission to give me a blood transfusion.  She said, ok, but you have to sign this form first.  My husband looked at me and said are you crazy?.  I said I know what I am doing.

My daughter was born in the morning.  By the afternoon she wouldn't stop crying.  The nurses came and took her off me and ran some tests.  There was not much oxygen getting into her, and I was so exhausted, I knew she was in good hands.

The next morning I went to find her, and found all these tubes in her.  She had meconium Aspiration Syndrome.  If I was at home, with no nurses and doctors around, it could of been fatal.  So in this sense, it was in God's will that I give birth in a hospital and chose to stay for 6 days.  The baby was in their care for about 3 days. 

That same morning not long after that, I couldn't stop bleeding.  I thought it was normal.  I was embarrased because I kept leaving a trail of blood behind me, and would quickly clean it up before anyone saw.  I called the head midwife and told her I had run out of pjama's as they were all stained, were there any washing machines available?  She got me to sit on a potty and I passed these massive clots.  I felt dizzy and told her I needed to lie down.  I jumped into bed and told her I was freezing (it was like 40 degrees outside).  I asked for more blankets, and she like went into a panick and called the doctors in.  I don't remember anything after that.

The next day I woke up and was on a saline drip I think?  I'm not sure.  That midwife said she was so worried about me because "we nearly lost you".  I said what do you mean?  She said we thought you were not going to make it.  You went into shock from so much blood loss, which is a sign just before.....

My husband came in to the hospital and was crying and said he nearly lost both of us in one day and that I was foolish to refuse the order of a blood transfusion before hand.  I said when my time is up it's up.  Don't worry I'm in the Lords hands.  If he wants to take me, he will, but I know the blood is sacred and I will not have anyone else's blood in my body as long as I live.

That was 15 years ago, and I am still here today.

I realised now that was a test for me.  Not for anyone else, but for me only.  Between me and my God.  My decision.

It took a long time to feel well again, and I looked like death walking for a while, but I chose not to take the blood transfusion because of my conscience.  If others do take it, I don't judge them. This is my walk.  Each man has his own conscience.  If I hadn't of read the scriptures in the Old and New Testament, and gone over the parts about how the blood is sacred, over and over, I wouldn't of thought twice and probably would of taken the blood transfusion.

[SINNERSAVED]

Sister,. bless you and , I am glad that , God has kept you around, for I believe no matter what we do go through, when the lord calls it will be at that appointed time and we cannot change that, for it is all in His time,

this was a great out come for you and your family, and I do agree with your view, that , we are to work out our salvation out with God between Him and yourself , and no one else can get in between,

and for this , there is trust in God, and faith , to believe He is with you and will keep you ,and no fear.

 so I ask the hard questions all the time, and its just to get answers and testimonies like yours ,that gives us , a lot to think about,

 you have great attitude and you are in the spirit of the almighty , for when you have given your self and surrender to God, this is where it counts, and you have been blessed by this,

 I am blessed by your story, and thank you for sharing this, with everyone, blessings and peace to you, your awesome, Sister.   .

[Retrobyter]

2 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said:

so the question is it biblical to have blood added to your blood, would it affect any thing of you in your spiritual walk with God,?

 the reason I ask this topic and placed it into a conversation, was not to ask a ridiculus question but to see where others see if it is something we can do or not, for there is other religions that do not allow this, so that's why I asked, this, for it is not in the bible for what I can see, unless I am not seeing it yet,

 for life is in the blood, and we know how it works, but is it something  ,like eating meats, that blood is involve, and is there anything that God or the bible tells us about on this,

 it is a reasonable question,  > do you not think so ? thank you

Shalom, SINNERSAVED.

Nope. Not one little bit.

[Sister]

1 hour ago, SINNERSAVED said:

Sister,. bless you and , I am glad that , God has kept you around, for I believe no matter what we do go through, when the lord calls it will be at that appointed time and we cannot change that, for it is all in His time,

this was a great out come for you and your family, and I do agree with your view, that , we are to work out our salvation out with God between Him and yourself , and no one else can get in between,

and for this , there is trust in God, and faith , to believe He is with you and will keep you ,and no fear.

 so I ask the hard questions all the time, and its just to get answers and testimonies like yours ,that gives us , a lot to think about,

 you have great attitude and you are in the spirit of the almighty , for when you have given your self and surrender to God, this is where it counts, and you have been blessed by this,

 I am blessed by your story, and thank you for sharing this, with everyone, blessings and peace to you, your awesome, Sister.   .

Thank you brother.

The Lord is awesome!  All praises to him. 

[tigger398]

Charlie had a blood transfusion. He would have died without one.

[simplejeff]

Yes, there's many here, myself included, who have family or friends or acquaintances 

who received blood who could have died without it.

Yahweh permitted it each time, or it could not have been so.

12 minutes ago, tigger398 said:

Charlie had a blood transfusion. He would have died without one.

 

[WilliamL]

On 3/6/2016 at 8:47 PM, Qnts2 said:

Life is in the blood, and the laws which restrict partaking of blood, are laws concerning food.

Genesis 9:4 But flesh with the x-life-x /nephesh/soul thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

If life is in the blood, does God allow blood transfusions ?

This whole topic is based upon the misinterpretation of a Hebrew word. All of the OT scriptures like the one above have to do with the eating of blood, in which the nephesh/soul of the animal resides. "Life" in Hebrew is the word chayyim; that word is never used in these scriptures.

Animals have souls, like men do, but their souls are of a different nature than man's. When you eat the blood of an animal, like many pagan people do, you imbibe some of that animal's nature. Many native peoples do this deliberately, to take on some of the desired qualities of the animal, but to do so is to lower one's humanity to that of a lower being.

On 3/6/2016 at 0:12 PM, post said:

Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, 
“Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
(Matthew 26:27-28) 

my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
(John 6:55)

Here Jesus is in effect telling us to imbibe from his soul, thereby taking upon us his nature.

Isaiah 53:10 When You make His soul/nephesh an offering for sin... 12 ...He poured out His soul/nephesh unto death...

The soul of Jesus was the soul of a perfect man. That is something we want to take into ourselves, to consume it, so as to partake of his nature and so raise our own.

As far as blood transfusions, that in effect is a sharing of soul-natures on a equal basis, one human to another. It is neither a lowering nor a raising of one's humanity.

[simplejeff]

I don't see anything in Scripture that says anyone of an old nature can partake in union with the Life of Jesus no matter what he does.

To receive the new nature, to be a new creation , requires Father in Heaven Granting being born of Him, by His Will from Heaven,  and only a new creation ((with even more limits/restrictions/ warnings in the NT)) may eat His body and drink His Blood, and  without forgetting HIS WORDS HIMSELF : these words are spirit, and they are life.((i.e. NOT canablism as taught by some witchcraft type religions on earth.))

Specifically , neither Yahweh nor Yahshua

nor the apostles ever violate TORAH concerning consuming blood.  Never.

[Retrobyter]

6 hours ago, WilliamL said:

If life is in the blood, does God allow blood transfusions ?

This whole topic is based upon the misinterpretation of a Hebrew word. All of the OT scriptures like the one above have to do with the eating of blood, in which the nephesh/soul of the animal resides. "Life" in Hebrew is the word chayyim; that word is never used in these scriptures.

Animals have souls, like men do, but their souls are of a different nature than man's. When you eat the blood of an animal, like many pagan people do, you imbibe some of that animal's nature. Many native peoples do this deliberately, to take on some of the desired qualities of the animal, but to do so is to lower one's humanity to that of a lower being.

Here Jesus is in effect telling us to imbibe from his soul, thereby taking upon us his nature.

Isaiah 53:10 When You make His soul/nephesh an offering for sin... 12 ...He poured out His soul/nephesh unto death...

The soul of Jesus was the soul of a perfect man. That is something we want to take into ourselves, to consume it, so as to partake of his nature and so raise our own.

As far as blood transfusions, that in effect is a sharing of soul-natures on a equal basis, one human to another. It is neither a lowering nor a raising of one's humanity.

Shalom, WilliamL.

Sorry, but that's nonsense. You're right that Genesis 9:4 does use the word "nefesh" within the word "bnafshow," meaning "in his (its) air-breather," instead of "chayyim," but you go astray when you think that "soul" means anything more, like "man's nature."

IF "many native peoples do this deliberately (that is, to eat the blood of an animal), to take on some of the desired qualities of the animal," it's because they've made the same mistake as you just have. That's NOT how it works! And, by transferring this nonsense to the 53rd chapter of Isaiah, you have compounded the error! 

READ Isaiah 53, again!

Yesha`yahu (Isaiah) 53:1-12
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; HE hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 He (the LORD) shall see of the travail of his (the Messiah's) soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
KJV

The comparison here is that the suffering Messiah is the Lamb of God; that is, He is a SACRIFICE for our sin! His air-breathing body ("soul") was poured out unto death; that is, He bled out and died by exsanguination, blood being the medium by which His body's cells received their oxygen! Because YHWH needed a sacrifice for sin, His air-breathing body's travail satisfied that need, and righteousness was fulfilled.

Through this sacrifice, we have the fulfillment of 2 Corinthians 5:21:

2 Corinthians 5:21
21 For he (YHWH) hath made him (the Messiah) to be sin for us, who (the Messiah) knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him (the Messiah).
KJV

The word "reconcile" and its various forms within this chapter mean "to exchange places with," and that is PRECISELY what is described in verse 21.

Yeshua the Messiah (in spite of His righteousness) --> our sin
God's righteousness in the Messiah <-- we (in spite of our sin)

It's not a "fair" trade, but it IS "just," and through that trade, we benefit and gain eternal life.