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30 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

As far as God saying 'Word' -yes.... but as far as 'Word' leading -no

that makes no sense to me at all.


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Just now, other one said:

that makes no sense to me at all.

In the verbiage of The written Word God does not say one way or another about navels...  However the Word leads us into
the understanding that God 'IS' The Being of purpose- all He does He does so with directed intent of communicating only
truth and displaying that truth in creative form... God says specifically that He formed the man from clay and to make the
clay living He placed His Breath within. Thus the witness of the source of life for the first man was God's Breath not from
a womb!  To place a navel there would be to give witness of womb not Breath... it's like the very nature of creation as
when we approach a mountain and step upon it we don't desend or a hole and step upon it an ascend... so God would not
place the sign of a womb on Adam when no womb was used! Love, Steven


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I understand that is your perception of the mind of God.


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Just now, other one said:

I understand that is your perception of the mind of God.

More of the leading of His Word in His Ways and the witness of His Word in creative essence.... God only
communicates truth both in Word written and creative format! The purpose of the navel is witness of
being formed in the womb of women.... now was Adam from a woman's womb? So you will have to show
me why, with the revelation of God through His written Word, God would creatively show that Adam was!


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14 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

More of the leading of His Word in His Ways and the witness of His Word in creative essence.... God only
communicates truth both in Word written and creative format! The purpose of the navel is witness of
being formed in the womb of women.... now was Adam from a woman's womb? So you will have to show
me why, with the revelation of God through His written Word, God would creatively show that Adam was!

Well, since I would not know if anyone other than Eve would have seen it since God clothed him himself that it would really matter....

I do see what you are saying, but it is still a metaphysical process to get to your thoughts on the subject and not a real statement from the word.   Only someone with your perception of God and what would be in his word would completely agree with you.    It may well be that it really doesn't matter at all so he just didn't talk about it.   

i could say that it needed to be in thier genetic makeup for it all to work out to have children....    do we know....   no not really.


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In the infinite of our God we with begin have a never ending acquainting before us.... perhaps better to say endless wonders of Him to behold.


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12 minutes ago, other one said:

Well, since I would not know if anyone other than Eve would have seen it since God clothed him himself that it would really matter....

I do see what you are saying, but it is still a metaphysical process to get to your thoughts on the subject and not a real statement from the word.   Only someone with your perception of God and what would be in his word would completely agree with you.    It may well be that it really doesn't matter at all so he just didn't talk about it.   

i could say that it needed to be in thier genetic makeup for it all to work out to have children....    do we know....   no not really.

We know the entire form of first creation ceases and the new form we cannot dream or think now- for
the things are not yet which they are comprised of... we are truly held in a tension by the grasp of God's
Own hand upon us knowing~ yet not- and having peace by Spiritual presence within of Him Who is already
there.   Love, Steven


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18 hours ago, enoob57 said:

More of the leading of His Word in His Ways and the witness of His Word in creative essence.... God only
communicates truth both in Word written and creative format! The purpose of the navel is witness of
being formed in the womb of women.... now was Adam from a woman's womb? So you will have to show
me why, with the revelation of God through His written Word, God would creatively show that Adam was!

God gave him one, if not people may think that he had an operation and had it removed.

It may also served more than one propose, than just the reminder that the plansenta was attach there.

We know that the fetus stores a lot of memories while still in the womb. It has hearing, and recognizes the voice of the mother, the  bark of the dog, music, it develops feelings, emotions, and it has  memory and can identified and recognize a familiar sound, it feels and is affected by the temperature.

How about Adam, what about him, did he or did he not have anything common to new born babies?

How can one tell.

 


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where is this Garden located, ? does it still exist, ?

 

Can anyone notice something interesting about this verse?

  Genesis 2:8   And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

 


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9 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

God gave him one, if not people may think that he had an operation and had it removed.

It may also served more than one propose, than just the reminder that the plansenta was attach there.

We know that the fetus stores a lot of memories while still in the womb. It has hearing, and recognizes the voice of the mother, the  bark of the dog, music, it develops feelings, emotions, and it has  memory and can identified and recognize a familiar sound, it feels and is affected by the temperature.

How about Adam, what about him, did he or did he not have anything common to new born babies?

How can one tell.

 

Shalom, Your closest friendnt.

No, Adam had nothing common to new born babies. He was CREATED full grown; He was not BORN. A navel is "a scar on the abdomen at the attachment site of the umbilical cord." (Wikipedia, emphasis mine.) Why would G-D choose to mar His creation of a man with a SCAR?! It would be unnecessary and misleading.
Besides, the LACK of a belly button would be proof positive that THIS man was the FIRST of G-D'S Creation of human beings! Thus, it would be fairly easy for any of his progeny to recognize their "prime progenitor!" Think of the LACK of a belly button as God's SIGNATURE on His ultimate design!

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