the book of Jasher, should it be part of study ?

[Paradigm]

I am not familiar with that particular understanding. "Yah" in the English "Jah" is a shortened form of the Tetragrammaton. This shortened form actually appears a lot, but as far as I know is only translated as "Jah" once in the KJV. 

Of course we do have passages in which the Name of the Creator is put upon foreheads. Also we have at least one instance that is mentioned in the Tanakh of a sign/mark put upon foreheads in Ezekiel. The term there is the Hebrew letter "tav." Tav is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet and can be translated in a variety of ways including mark or sign. 

We have the reverse of this concept of this mentioned in Rev 13. 

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Any thoughts on the questions in the previous post?

[WilliamL]

1 minute ago, Paradigm said:

Of course we do have passages in which the Name of the Creator is put upon foreheads. Also we have at least one instance that is mentioned in the Tanakh of a sign/mark put upon foreheads in Ezekiel. The term there is the Hebrew letter "tav." Tav is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet and can be translated in a variety of ways including mark or sign. 

Mark, or sign, or cross.

[WilliamL]

20 hours ago, Ezra said:

 

The person who tries to promote extra-biblical writings -- which is you -- is the one who tries to divide by bringing conflicting teachings to Christians.  This is not the only example either. All writings outside of the sixty six books in our Bible must be regarded as NOT INSPIRED BY GOD. 

Because the Roman state Church so decided back in the 5th century? Even though the ante-Nicene Fathers taught otherwise?

Clearly, you believe that the decisions of the post-Nicene era church leaders were not only superior to their predecessors, but that those decisions are binding on the Church throughout all history thereafter. Upon what basis do you found your belief -- that the post-Nicene authorities were divinely inspired? 

[7Dove77]

WilliamL,

 

Where in scripture,does it say,the Jews are converted?

With that being said.......what are they converted to?

When the Lord comes,all will see him,

Elect are from all (12) tribes,,,,,meaning,jews are a tribe,then their are (11) more tribes.

The ELECT are not just Jews.......if that's what your saying..

Needing clarity,ty

Blessings,

  7Dove77

[WilliamL]

2 minutes ago, 7Dove77 said:

WilliamL,

 

Where in scripture,does it say,the Jews are converted?

With that being said.......what are they converted to?

When the Lord comes,all will see him,

Elect are from all (12) tribes,,,,,meaning,jews are a tribe,then their are (11) more tribes.

The ELECT are not just Jews.......if that's what your saying..

Needing clarity,ty

Blessings,

  7Dove77

sorry, butI have no idea what this post is in reference to of mine.

[7Dove77]

WilliamL,

Your correct,noticed had nothing to do with your posting,to the subject,,

Just noticed,it was a coment to the scripture you had posted of the bottom of your page,,,

 

Blessings     7Dove77

[Paradigm]

58 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

Mark, or sign, or cross.

Yes, William. The ancient symbol of "Tav" represented a sign, mark, or cross. 

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SinnerSaved: I meant to also mention that the shortened form of the Name is only two letters: The "yud" and "heh." 

[Ezra]

9 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Upon what basis do you found your belief

Well it's really quite simple. Christ regarded only our Old Testament (the Hebrew Tanakh) as "the Scriptures" (the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms = 24 books in Hebrew and 39 books in English).  Then Peter equated all of Paul's epistles with these Scriptures, (which are over 55% of the New Testament). Luke and John said that they wrote by Divine inspiration.

The remaining books were recognized as Scripture by the churches, and so we have a New Testament canon in Greek by about 200 AD.  It lists almost every book that we find in our New Testament.  The Holy Spirit was guiding and directly Christians to discard the spurious Gnostic fables, and hold fast to the true Word of God.  We also have the inner witness of the Bible and the inner witness of the Holy Spirit.  The councils merely confirmed what was a reality within the churches.

[Sister]

23 hours ago, saved34 said:

God bless you Sister, but be careful when speculating about angels. Especially when scripture speaks expressly that we are completely blessed in Christ, and are complete in him. Seems to me that writer added tons of teaching that would throw the harmony of scripture out of wack.

 

"Colossians 2:18-19 NIV
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. [19] They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow."

saved34

Thank you for your concern also.  Just because God is showing Enoch how he utilizes his angels, and reveals some of their names, does not mean we are to worship them.  Where did you get this idea from?  Are we not allowed to speak of what's written in the book of Enoch and discuss and compare to the scriptures?

Enoch was mentioned in the scriptures.  He was 7th from Adam and lived in the old world before the flood.  He would of passed on what he knew to Noah.  If you can get past the angels and their names and what they did, good and bad, and actually take a look at the prophesies in that book, he prophesied also about the flood to come, Moses leading the Hebrews out of Egypt, the Son of God which came, the crucifixion, the end time tribulation, the Coming of Christ, the remnants of Israel and and the 1000 year rest all the way up to the Gog and Magog battle. 

No body is mentioning anything about this are they?

Enoch can only be a "witness" from "the Old World", testifying that everything God said and revealed would come true.  Yes a prophet from "the Old World" before the flood, and a prophet prophesises, so that God's Word can be a witness to them also declaring what is to come right up to the end, even though they would not be around to see it, but God Word lives on for generations to come and ALL WILL BE FULFILLED, as written in the Holy Scriptures.

God knows everything in advance and has it all planned out right from the beginning.  This is what the book of Enoch clearly demonstrates.

Now what do you find a contradiction?  Lets look at it.

[SINNERSAVED]

14 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Well it's really quite simple. Christ regarded only our Old Testament (the Hebrew Tanakh) as "the Scriptures" (the Law, the Prophets, and the Psalms = 24 books in Hebrew and 39 books in English).  Then Peter equated all of Paul's epistles with these Scriptures, (which are over 55% of the New Testament). Luke and John said that they wrote by Divine inspiration.

The remaining books were recognized as Scripture by the churches, and so we have a New Testament canon in Greek by about 200 AD.  It lists almost every book that we find in our New Testament.  The Holy Spirit was guiding and directly Christians to discard the spurious Gnostic fables, and hold fast to the true Word of God.  We also have the inner witness of the Bible and the inner witness of the Holy Spirit.  The councils merely confirmed what was a reality within the churches.

really , it seems that you where there ?  you cannot back that up m it is all hear say, so , what is the proof of what you are stating, for you do not know if the gnostic is original and worthy or not,  you dis agree with them and so that does not make it correct ?

 you also go by the church , of the past,  to be correct, of whats in, and whats out of the bible, you got to give references , I would like to read that for my self ?

 thanks