Are Forum Members ever guilty of stirring up strife?

[angels4u]

17 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I think sometimes, yes, what do you think? Some threads by nature or their topics, invite debate, I am not speaking about that. I am speaking about times, where a thread starts out with a topic, that one would not suspect would lead to debate. I am not even talking about debate, as though it has no place, it can be a way to learn and to teach, to those who have the personality and self control to have those intellectual exchanges with out escalating it to a state of little mini-fights.

You have seen them, no doubt, recognized by the fact, that the tend to cease speaking to the topic, and begin to increasingly devolve to two or more persons, focusing on the perceived faults of other poster. Sometimes, they are just about criticising one's ability to use logic. Sometimes they might state that the other person is wrong, rather that saying "my opinion is different"! In some cases, they go so far as to accuse other of being heretics, or unsaved.

If there are two possible answers to a question, a person might have a 50/50 chance of getting it right. I would bet, that over 90% of people, do not consider that they could be the one who is wrong, and when that possibility is suggested, they respond in anger, more often than thoughtful self examination.

I at times, am amazed at how certain people are, that they have it right. Occasionally, a person thinks that they are the only one that has it right. What are the odds of that being true? If a persons think that they are the only one that is right, I wonder, truthfully, if there is something wrong with with such a person, a true mental condition!

Well, I did not mean to say this much, not mention all of these thoughts. I was just intending to ask, if you think that there are certain persons, who habitually argue with others, as though that is their mission and calling in life, do we have these here at Worthy (no names please)?

Would the passages and verses on the page at this link, apply to any of these people, do you think?

 

Hello Mega,

I believe we are ALL guilty at causing strive at times

We  ALL have to repent and think before we post,including people who are in Worthy ministry

We  ALL  have to be very careful,that what we post is  as onto the Lord .

Strive is never good and I hope I didn't upset anybody?

If I did I ask you for forgive me~~

Can we All start a new fresh start and think what our motive of posting is,is it to be right or pleasing to God?

Philippians 2:5

 

The Attitude of Christ
4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.5Let this mind be in you which was also inChrist Jesus: 6Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to cling to,…

The key thing is to think before we post,do we want to push our opinion ?

Do we correct in love?

Do we want to be right?

Do we want to serve God or feel good about ourselves?

Philippians 1:27Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

 

Love you all

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Mega,,,,,,,aqua

     Another great Topic Sir,,,,,,,,Yes,there are the folks that are just plain "obstinate"  ,,,,,,,someone days the sky is blue & they will immediately say," No,it is not,,,it is green" just for the sake of argument,,,,,,is there an agenda,Yes,,,,,but it is not flesh & blood we struggle with,it is principalities,,,,,,,

     Problem I see is the carnal mind,,,,,,"re-acting" as opposed to "responding",,,,,,not every single comment needs someones P's & Q's,,,,,,but it does need prayer & following where God wants to use you,as His Vessel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,in other words,"zip it",think,consider,pray & respond,,,,IF the Holy Spirit prompts you

      Sometimes I myself c an get so weary of the same person"persons",,,,,,predictable re-actions & "pot-stirring",,,,,,,,mostly I just ignore them but it can get frustrating,especially when you are having a very nice discussion & along comes"so & so" to add strife,,,,,,,purposefully,,,,,,we have to remember,it is not "them" doing it but the enemy behind the scenes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Resist the devil & he will flee",,,,,,if we don't respond they will have no argument,,,,,,I only find this difficult when OTHERS are being attacked,,,,,,,,I am one of those with a soft spot for the meek,the vulnerable,the victim,,,,,,,,,,& then I am very prone to become "carnal minded" myself & get "baited" in,,,,,,,,,,We cannot go about our Fathers Business without having the Full Armor of God in tact,the Shield of Faith & Sword of the Spirit held high!!!

    We have a "report" button,,,,use it & be quiet,one person cannot argue by themselves,,,,,,,,,,,,,An unedifying Thread pops up,clearly bait for an argument,bump it off the main Board & find something Worthy to talk about instead of keeping it in the forefront by participation,,,,,,,,,,I look at it this way,,,,,,the enemy is relentless,one leaves & is quickly replaced with another obstinate "pot-stirrer",,,,,,this tells me that Worthy Ministries is truly Gods Blessed Place because the enemy just keeps trying to tear us apart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,To God be the Glory,keep pressing forward & be accountable for yourselves,your "re-actions" or "responses",,,,,,they best approach is usually "zip-it!",,,,,,,,,bridle our tongues,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,seek Gods Will for you & what He would have us to do,,,,                   Love,Kwik

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Omega......

     I noticed that 50% of the folks that participated have all said"Yes, there are some, but not to an excessive degree!"......I chose that one,I think we have very few that continually cause strife & waves,,,,,,,but the majority certainly are wonderful Spirit lead,peaceful,loving,kind Born Again Believers!!!!!! Praise the Lord!!!!        Love,Kwik

[The_Patriot21]

I did not choose one, because the one I would choose, honestly, isnt up there. I think that we are all guilty, either directly, or indirectly, of stirring up strife at some point or another.  Sometimes, its indirectly-we say something, and either dont take time enough to proof read it or someone misunderstands it, and takes it personally, and bam, world war 3 starts. It happens to the best of us. Other times, and this probably happens more so with some then others, but i think again, honestly, if we look back in our lives were all guilty of it at some point. And thats directly doing it, we get passionate about something, and someone says something that we see as "stupid" and we in no uncertain terms feel it is our right to prove what an idiot they are, and bam, there goes world war 4. Many of us grow past this stage, some of us slower then others, some not at all.

 

We also need to keep in perspective, no matter where you go, your going to find strife, and "troublemakers" no matter where you go. Im active in 2 other forums, a gun forum and a computer help forum, and even there, you see strife and dissent (though, the firearms forum, its rare, funny how that works out) I do see it moreso here, because people are passionate about their beliefs, but that doesnt mean it doesnt happen elsewhere. We need to remember that even though we are passionate about our beliefs we need to learn to phrase our wordings in such a way as to show Christs love, and learn to extend grace to others, because maybe they are just overly passionate about their beliefs.

[Ezra]

On 09/05/2016 at 1:07 PM, Omegaman 3.0 said:

I think sometimes, yes, what do you think?

There have been some whose primary objective was to sow spiritual confusion and strife.  We should always remember that Satan and his minions are out to cause divisions and strife whenever the Gospel or Bible truth is being presented, and use people for this purpose.  Some focus on ad hominem attacks rather than the issues.  In any issue, there comes a point where one must simply walk away.

[Guest]

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 0:25 PM, bopeep1909 said:

 

Do you mean an internet troll?   I am all for a healthy Christian debate. We have to know that their will be many opinions. People can not get upset if they want their opinion to be the only right opinion. Attacking others is just not acceptable. No obvious false teachings should be allowed.

What is obvious false teaching to one person, may not be to another though!............. There is a lot of Catholic bashing though. A lot.

[The_Patriot21]

36 minutes ago, Joline said:

What is obvious false teaching to one person, may not be to another though!............. There is a lot of Catholic bashing though. A lot.

while that may be true, if a teaching is false, it remains false regardless of who believes it.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

while that may be true, if a teaching is false, it remains false regardless of who believes it.

Well, I dunno Patriot. My opinion is, but it is only my opinion of course. If the apostles believed it then it does matter. Well to me anyway it does

[The_Patriot21]

Just now, Joline said:

Well, I dunno Patriot. My opinion is, but it is only my opinion of course. If the apostles believed it then it does matter. Well to me anyway it does

I agree-if the apostles believed it, and it was recorded in the original 66 books of the Bible, it is true, undeniably, true. Regardless of ones opinion of the matter. If anyone, be them catholic, JW, or whatever, presents a teaching that is contrary to what the Bible says, or even "different" then they are wrong.

With that said, you bring up a point, that they believe they are in the right, and are passionate about their beliefs, and their opinion is they are right. And they often, become militant to prove it. What we need to remind ourselves of, and im guilty of this, becoming militant back, isnt likely to show them their error-but rather reinforce their false beliefs. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

I agree-if the apostles believed it, and it was recorded in the original 66 books of the Bible, it is true, undeniably, true. Regardless of ones opinion of the matter. If anyone, be them catholic, JW, or whatever, presents a teaching that is contrary to what the Bible says, or even "different" then they are wrong.

With that said, you bring up a point, that they believe they are in the right, and are passionate about their beliefs, and their opinion is they are right. And they often, become militant to prove it. What we need to remind ourselves of, and im guilty of this, becoming militant back, isnt likely to show them their error-but rather reinforce their false beliefs. 

Ah yes, We can all believe we are right, not just "they". Being militant can be associated with many things. It is possible (again only my opinion) One can be militant or even hypocritical about being what they consider "nice".

Kind of like a series I used to watch years ago. . Two doctors, one from a wealthy family seeing regular patients. the other from a poor family, struggling, and needing help to get through medical school, ran a free clinic part time. It actually had one episode where the poor doctor, was shown to be more prideful, and unbending and judgmental than she which worked with the regular paying patients. I will never forget that one episode. This effect can be true to life sometimes.