Are Forum Members ever guilty of stirring up strife?

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, bopeep1909 said:

No it is not in the eyes of the beholder. It is God's Holy word. If a person is distorting it that is serious business in the eyes of God.

Again, No need to roar?

And there are those who totally and wilfully ignore plain literal Scriptures and when this is pointed out and it interferes with their pet theory and ideas then they lash out, name call, put words in posters mouths not said, and bet all haughty and aloof, claiming they know better, for example  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  ?

[missmuffet]

2 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Again, No need to roar?

And there are those who totally and wilfully ignore plain literal Scriptures and when this is pointed out and it interferes with their pet theory and ideas then they lash out, name call, put words in posters mouths not said, and bet all haughty and aloof, claiming they know better, for example  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  ?

I respect a post that has Biblical good theology in it. But when I see that a post is not Biblical I will often refute it.

[HAZARD]

Just now, bopeep1909 said:

I respect a post that has Biblical good theology in it. But when I see that a post is not Biblical I will often refute it.

Its when you refute the truth, holding on to old ideas and theories taught by men, then your not respecting anything.

[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Its when you refute the truth, holding on to old ideas and theories taught by men, then your not respecting anything.

I am confused as to what you are telling me. There is only one true literal Word of God. It is what the Holy Bible tells us. We can not add to those words or take away from those words. We can not make up our own words and meaning.

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, Joline said:

Or you are or are not? It is in the eyes of the beholder here.

There is such as thing as objective Bible truth supported by Scripture.  So it is not simply a matter of what is in the eye of the beholder.  For example take the Deity of Christ. If someone comes along on Worthy and creates a thread with the title "Jesus is not God", we know that this person is here to simply stir up strife, since this is definitely not a controversial issue.  Ideally, this individual would be automatically banned, but some fall through the cracks.  Similarly, if someone comes along and says that the LDS or the RCC is the only true church, that is definitely going to be a serious issue.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Ezra said:

There is such as thing as objective Bible truth supported by Scripture.  So it is not simply a matter of what is in the eye of the beholder.  For example take the Deity of Christ. If someone comes along on Worthy and creates a thread with the title "Jesus is not God", we know that this person is here to simply stir up strife, since this is definitely not a controversial issue.  Ideally, this individual would be automatically banned, but some fall through the cracks.  Similarly, if someone comes along and says that the LDS or the RCC is the only true church, that is definitely going to be a serious issue.

I agree with the doctrine of the trinity myself. But some do not see it, or agree with it. Now maybe I am wrong to think this way about things Ezra, but here is how I see it. I see nothing wrong with saying non Trinitarian doctrine is heresy here on this forum. The reason being that it is stated as a doctrine in the statement of faith. However, as I think it was clear, my personal pet peeve when that thread came up, was the distortions of that doctrine. Essentially I seen the inaccurate statements made about the doctrine as not only straw men arguments, but more importantly the dumbing down of what the doctrine is actually about.

Now I am not Catholic, but the Catholic bashing bothers me as well. this forum is called "Christian". They believe they are Christian and I believe they are as well, so have every right to be here and speak, as much as anyone else has, unless "Christian" as part of the title of this forums changes or takes on some other exclusionary title.

I also have problems with distortions of "Catholicism" as well. Not all Catholicism is Roman Catholicism.

So, that is all I have to say about that.

But the set up of this forum is not to have denominational areas. Therefore, going against the statement of faith concerning the nature of God should be expected to be viewed as heresy here. Catholics coming also are not restricted in the statement of faith.

But there are elements here that distinguish themselves from Christianity all together. Some of them are completely accepted here. I do not get that, but that is just how it is.

In Christ

Joline

[Omegaman 3.0]

2 hours ago, bopeep1909 said:

I am sorry. I will keep it smaller if that suits you best. I just think the font that comes off on Worthy might be hard for some people to see. My eyes are fine.

No no no no. Do as you like! I am not asking you to nor expecting you to change that. I am just letting you know, that as I scroll down the page, and encounter your recent posts, that it looks as thought you are trying to especially emphasize what you are saying, as though it is extremely important, or expressing anger or something, that is just my impression,

Understand?

I was genuinely concerned that perhaps you were losing your vision, I seem to be, so I have my window zoomed in to make it easier to read here at worthy. I assume others who have vision issues, probably do likewise, so I feel not need to try to accomodate them with large text, I keep the text similar to others. Because I am zoomed in (typically 125 to 150%) that may be part of why your text screams at me, as I am already reading enlarged text, then I run into yours. No problem, just informational.

[HAZARD]

3 hours ago, bopeep1909 said:

I am confused as to what you are telling me. There is only one true literal Word of God. It is what the Holy Bible tells us. We can not add to those words or take away from those words. We can not make up our own words and meaning.

Let me clarify it for you. When God says in several Scriptures,

Jer. 19:5. They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

God is saying they burn their sons with fire, which he never commanded them to do, He never even spoke of such a thing, This never even came into His mind that they would do such a thing, . . . I believe God, and in God saying this, God never knew.

Now we could say, God your lying for we know you are omniscient and know all things! Personally I would not dare do such a thing.

When God says He will go down and see whether they have done what has been said, which had come unto Him, This tells me God did not know what was going on in Sodom, until it was reported to Him and He wanted to go there and see for Himself, if this was as He was told. This also tells me He did not know, was not sure, He had to go see for Himself, He did not know for sure if it was as bad as was reported, He did not know. I believe God.

Now we could say, God your lying again because we know your omniscient. Personally I would not dare do such a thing.

Gen. 18:21. I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

God tested Abraham by asking him to sacrifice his son. Abraham proved faithful in carrying out Gods command and God stopped him just before Abraham was about to strike. It was then, not before, that God knew Abraham was faithful.

God said to Abraham,

Gen. 22:12 And He said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

Abraham had free moral agency and God had to know which way Abraham would choose, kill his legitimate son whom he had waited so long for, or obeying God? He chose wisely and it was at that moment God knew He could trust Abraham with the promised blessings.

This Scripture alone tells me God did not know what Abraham would do until he did it, Abraham chose to obey God and God said, "now I know." I believe God when He said it was then that He knew.

Now we could say, God your lying again because we know your omniscient, Personally I would not dare do such a thing.

God's omnipotence covers all things, His entire plan for man from beginning to end and He has the power to bring it to fruition, and He chooses men who will carry out His commands and plans, He searches hearts and minds. A wast of time if you ask me, searching hearts and minds if one already knows every thought of a free moral agent.

People argue till their blue in the face over things like this to no avail because when God says something He usually means it, and when He says, "I know now," or "I do not know," or "I will go down and see if" its Him we should believe, not men's ideas.

 

[kwikphilly]

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There have been some whose primary objective was to sow spiritual confusion and strife.  We should always remember that Satan and his minions are out to cause divisions and strife whenever the Gospel or Bible truth is being presented, and use people for this purpose.  Some focus on ad hominem attacks rather than the issues.  In any issue, there comes a point where one must simply walk away.                         posted by Ezra

This is the heart of the matter,,,,,,,again,it is not flesh & blood that we struggle with & that applies to ourselves as well as others ,,,,,it is the same old enemy,no new tricks ,they have been successful for thousands of years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,recognize the enemy,his tactics & WALK AWAY...

"Resist the devil & he will flee",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,having to get the last word in is just entertaining the enemy,the spirit of PRIDE,,,,,

Omegaman did not start this thread to bicker about who does what,what point YOU must get across or any such thing,,,,,,it is another good reminder for us to take a good hard look at WE OURSELVES do to keep peace,,kindness,patience,love,compassion, flowing within the Body of Christ,,,,,,,to stand United by our Faith and serve God,,,,,not act(re-act) as puppets for the devil,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Let us pray one for the other,,,,,may God continue to lead us & guide us & help us to LISTEN!!!!    Glory to God!

                                                                                       With love-in Christ,Kwik (thank You Lord,thank You)

[kwikphilly]

Omegaman,Brother

   I would like to just say "thank you" for starting this Thread,& to you & all the Worthy Ministry Team for all you to here,may our Lord continue to flow through you& use you,Blessing you all Bountifully,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Praise Jesus!                      Love,,,,,Your Sis