Why does the Church not welcome the LGBT community?

[kwikphilly]

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Now, we know that Jesus was NOT a ministry failure.   Obviously Jesus' ministry goes beyond His original earthly ministry and Jesus is still making disciples today.   The problem is that this article wants to make you feel guilty if gays don't come to your church and puts the blame on you for calling homosexuality a sin and not allowing gays to be comfortable in their sin. If you tell people the truth about sin and they are turned off, that is not a failure on your part.  That's the response of a hardened heart.                             posted by Shiloh

That is right,,,,,,it is all about God on "people's" terms......from wearing w4hat they are comfortable in to hearing what their itching ears wants to hear because anything else would make someone"uncomfortable" & it is true,most :churches" seem to be more interested in 'numbers" ,,,,quantity & not quality,,,,,,,,,,as long as the seats are filled  they will continue to avoid the whole Truth,nothing but the Truth,,,,,sad

  I'm glad my little church does not function that way,the sermons are focused on the Word of God,it isn't always easy listening,you may have to take a long hard look at yourself as "sin" is often addressed,,,,,,,,,,,,this includes all of the hard TRUTH,,,,,,many visitors do not return,they are welcomed with open arms,they are always invited to leave their "old lives" at the altar & accept FREEDOM in Christ but not many are willing to forsake their sinful lifestyles,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Oh well,they are always welcome but we make no excuses for Gods Truth,,,,,,,

   I suppose people need to wake up & understand by attending the "soft on sin" style of preaching they are supporting the whole numbers game,,,,,if they have come to Christ through one of those mega church Ministries,Praise Jesus,all well & good but there comes a time of maturity(hopefully) & then there comes many decisions,,,,,,,,one  of those decisions is to WALK THE WALK & THE WALK is not always comfortable,not always convenient,not always pleasant,gentle & soft,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it is a matter of life & death,for ETERNITY        Love,Kwik

[Ezra]

2 hours ago, RustyAngeL said:

Our church welcomes all sinners, too.  I just think we have talked it to death.

This was not even an issue until the homosexual (tiny) vocal minority politicized this issue.  Their agenda was to promote sexual perversion aggressively, and unfortunately they found allies in the liberal homosexual clergy (who should have been made to resign). 

So with Mr. Obama doing his utmost to ensure that the *rainbow* crowd gets more attention than anyone else, it is to be expected that questions about *acceptance* would come up.  The idea is that homosexuality should not be deemed a sin, but an acceptable lifestyle which should be adopted by everyone. As Scripture says "Seducers will wax worse and worse".

It is also noteworthy that all reporting on AIDS and HIV has been generally suppressed, since it would expose the fallacy and evil that really exists in sexual perversion.

[ayin jade]

24 minutes ago, Ezra said:

 

It is also noteworthy that all reporting on AIDS and HIV has been generally suppressed, since it would expose the fallacy and evil that really exists in sexual perversion.

Hmmm. It does seem to have been muted even in medical literature. 

One thing that has happened, that not many here would have noticed, is that one can now donate blood if one is gay. The san francisco crowd managed to get it changed. Stupid stupid thing to do. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/health/fda-gay-men-blood-donation-changes/

[Steve_S]

2 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Hmmm. It does seem to have been muted even in medical literature. 

One thing that has happened, that not many here would have noticed, is that one can now donate blood if one has hiv. The san francisco crowd managed to get it deemed a manageable illness so that they are permitted to donate blood. Stupid stupid thing to do. 

So you can get blood with HIV in it from a blood bank? 

 

[ayin jade]

Just now, Steve_S said:

So you can get blood with HIV in it from a blood bank? 

 

I edited my post since I couldnt find an article on it. But my understand, and my hubbys, from what we saw in the news, is that hiv infected people could donate blood. 

They can now donate organs in california too, but only to hiv infected people. 

[ayin jade]

This is interesting though.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/rachel-hoover/cdc-high-hiv-rate-among-transgender-women-and-more-likely-among-black

[Steve_S]

Just now, ayin jade said:

I edited my post since I couldnt find an article on it. But my understand, and my hubbys, from what we saw in the news, is that hiv infected people could donate blood. 

They can now donate organs in california too, but only to hiv infected people. 

Ah, I just did a quick search and I was able to find that late last year the FDA lifted its lifetime ban on gay men being allowed to donate blood, which was in effect for three decades. Evidently now it's based on another indicator, but there is still a loose restriction. (Not going into details on the forums about it). 

[RustyAngeL]

4 hours ago, Steve_S said:

I think it's accurate to just go ahead and assume that this is a topic that is not going to go away anytime soon, either on the forums, in chat, or in just every day life. There is a cultural shift that has taken place. Even if you go through all the members on worthy that have posted in threads or had discussions in chat about this in the past, every day new members join that may want to talk it through. We have to be prepared to engage people on topics such as this, because this is the sort of thing that affects people's every day lives. It's impossible to avoid it, basically, nor should we, I think, no matter how redundant it may get over time.

I would agree.

[RustyAngeL]

4 hours ago, Steve_S said:

I think it's accurate to just go ahead and assume that this is a topic that is not going to go away anytime soon, either on the forums, in chat, or in just every day life. There is a cultural shift that has taken place. Even if you go through all the members on worthy that have posted in threads or had discussions in chat about this in the past, every day new members join that may want to talk it through. We have to be prepared to engage people on topics such as this, because this is the sort of thing that affects people's every day lives. It's impossible to avoid it, basically, nor should we, I think, no matter how redundant it may get over time.

 

[RustyAngeL]

3 hours ago, Steve_S said:

So you can get blood with HIV in it from a blood bank? 

 

I would find it highly unlikely.  I remember when I had to have blood after the bleeding ulcer broke.  I was on my second unit when my friend came in the room.  Her first comment was "well I hope they didn't give you anything that will kill you"  It was the only funny thing that happened to me that day.  She is highly paranoid and believes anything she hears.  I love her to pieces but I would have to say she is not the brightest bulb in the six pack.  I would have a transfusion today if I needed it.  With all the checking they do now Steve I would be fairly sure there is no danger.