Are we worshiping God or 'god'?

[Ezra]

4 hours ago, other one said:

So, your wife has MS and she's feeling bad and you go to church....   she falls and hurts herself but can't reach you at church......     yeah....  real good idea.

An emergency land line on the church premises should resolve that issue.

[Sharnadeen]

7 hours ago, warrior12 said:

There are many aspect to this situation.  To get young people to stay in the church, some leeway is given to them as the fear of parents and church administrator of loosing them or for then not to get bored.  Another is some pastors are using tablets and large screens are used to display text and video, so congregations are getting more comfortable using their gadgets within the service.   

As you are a young person, you may hear the term " there is no perfect church", meaning every church you attend, there will always be some issues that may bug you and it will always be so, after all, you are dealing with humans here [ some can be stubborn ].

Also, there are situations where there may be genuine situations where, people come from afar and with the cities especially and traffic, and construction, one may always be late.  Also, not everyone who attends church may not be a worshiper as such, but is there for the sunday service and life goes on.   

But you are correct, in that when you  go to worship, and those doors close, the world should be left behind and your focus should be on who you came to give that time and worship.  People who came to be noticed, there is not much you can do about that.  The pastor should time to time, preach a topical message on  the reverence for God  and to remind everyone what the house of God is .   Remember the Ark of the covenant and the priesthood.

Point taken....Well said....

[other one]

3 hours ago, Ezra said:

An emergency land line on the church premises should resolve that issue.

still someone has to monitor it and come in to disrupt things to get me.....   and a simple silencing the phone does the same...

folks that use their phoned during church are the ones who would set there with their minds wondering not listening anyway.   I have a cousin that puts a Bible cover on whatever she's reading that day and reads books during church.....   folks just think she's reading the bible.

 

The phone isn't the problem here is what I'm getting at.

[other one]

7 hours ago, warrior12 said:

that when you  go to worship, and those doors close, the world should be left behind and your focus should be on who you came to give that time and worship.  People who came to be noticed, there is not much you can do about that.  The pastor should time to time, preach a topical message on  the reverence for God  and to remind everyone what the house of God is .   Remember the Ark of the covenant and the priesthood.

The so called house of God is just a building.   The only part of God that is at a service is that which each individual brings for Gods temple now resides within each of us through the Holy Spirit.    If you are going to have God in your service, you have to bring Him with you.   And that is the case of going to some big cathedral type building or someone's house for home church.  Those people who come to be noticed bring nothing with them and should just be ignored.   As should people doing non essential things with phones.     But you shouldn't ban phones or tablets just because you think people are not paying attention.

[warrior12]

59 minutes ago, other one said:

The so called house of God is just a building.   The only part of God that is at a service is that which each individual brings for Gods temple now resides within each of us through the Holy Spirit.    If you are going to have God in your service, you have to bring Him with you.   And that is the case of going to some big cathedral type building or someone's house for home church.  Those people who come to be noticed bring nothing with them and should just be ignored.   As should people doing non essential things with phones.     But you shouldn't ban phones or tablets just because you think people are not paying attention.

While i understand your message above, we have to have utmost respect for the place of worship, even though the person entering there just came in to listen or as a non-regular attendee.   When you go to court, you obey the judge, and if not you are fined or thrown out.  In a church service, it is reverence for the God that you came to worship that must be foremost in your mind and the rest will follow. 

If people want to play with their phones at church, they might as well stay home, as they are distracted and they distract others, it is just a human phenomenon to be distracted by things that are annoying.  Just put the phone on vibrate and leave it there, no need to be fidgeting with the thing all the time, it shows lack of self control and also lack of respect for the pastor.  You go on an airplane and you are told to turn off your phone, and you should, same should apply to phones. Or you should take the very back seats.  The priest entering the Ark of the covenant is where a lesson should be taken.  The house of God is just a building, but it is also symbolic of the place where people gather to meet and honor their God in numbers and it should be very much respected and yes some rules set in place for anyone coming in to obey.    

[other one]

we just have a very different view of church.