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30 minutes ago, other one said:

I think you should adhere to Jesus's two commandments, not the old testament 10.

Yes, but Jesus tell us that by following the two greatest commandments  all the laws and prophets are covered?  Seems to me that the 10 you mention fall under the two.

Matthew 22:36-40

“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’  This is the first and great commandment.  And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’  On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.

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while that is true, the two cover the ten, but the ten do not come up to the standard of the two.    If you read Matthew chapter 25 starting about verse 30 you will see people who are refused who do not break any of the ten commandments that is stated but still are not allowed into heaven.

Thus my stand in that it is not a good safe thing to preach the ten commandments.

It is also confusing as to the fourth commandment as to what was told the ancient Israelites about no work at all which Jesus himself did not follow when he was here.

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The framework of the Law was to show fallen humanity the impossible position everyone was in for self redemption (OT) - the perfection of this is total and seen in the whole of OT! Now that the Law has so justly condemned sin and all that violate it and(exampled 1Cor 10:1-12)-> came the fulness of time... Jesus obeyed it perfectly thus fulfilling the Psalm! God's justice now satisfied by pouring His wrath out upon 'The Perfect Sacrifice' all of creation is perfectly judged by the law and is dead-> thus from first sin to last sin in heaven and earth awaits the condemnation of hell fire eternal... The Son of God has produced a doorway from eternity past where no sin existed to eternity future where no sin shall ever be again and thus the perfect prepostion 'Through Christ' unto the full presence of The Holy Righteous Father... The Law of God can be loved for it has set the standarded whereby God alone has separated us from our sin judiciously in Christ and has perfected The Righteousness of God for all eternity unblemished by the first and last sin ever committed... it was and will be as though sin never was.... fully accomplishing this requirement of The Holy God

Ephesians 4:27 (NKJV)

[27] nor give place to the devil. [28] Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. [29] Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. [30] And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. [31] Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. [32] And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

Understanding- In an eternal righteous God filling all place with His Being sin through rebellion has no created place. We can understand this passage to be in The Light as He (Jesus) 'IS' in The Light... Love, Steven

 

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2 hours ago, other one said:

while that is true, the two cover the ten, but the ten do not come up to the standard of the two.    If you read Matthew chapter 25 starting about verse 30 you will see people who are refused who do not break any of the ten commandments that is stated but still are not allowed into heaven

We are all born dead to God in spirit! We gave the earth and it's contents to satan... the Law was given to the already dead! Following all the rules could not change any of these facts... 

2 hours ago, other one said:

It is also confusing as to the fourth commandment as to what was told the ancient Israelites about no work at all which Jesus himself did not follow when he was here.

Jesus did follow The Law given by Moses perfectly in every way... man's interpretation of no work was in error for Jesus said this of Himself and The Father

John 5:17 (KJV)

[17] But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

[18] Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

[19] Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

[20] For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

[21] For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

[22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

[23] That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

 

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You can twist is any way you wish, but Jesus admitted to working on the sabbath, and said the Father was also.

 

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12 hours ago, other one said:

I think you should adhere to Jesus's two commandments, not the old testament 10.

jesus two commandments "Love God with all your heart, soul and mind" and Love your Neighbour as yourself is a summary of the Ten commandments  not instead of...as He said in Matthew 19.17 "to enter into life keep the Commandments and He identified the Ten commandments...How do you love God/Jesus? You keep His commandments John 14.15

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8 hours ago, other one said:

You can twist is any way you wish, but Jesus admitted to working on the sabbath, and said the Father was also.

 

As Jesus said in Mark 2 27&28 He is Lord of the Sabbath.  He said what can be done on the Sabbath without breaking it...He healed, ate, and taught on the Sabbath day...but not work..He to the pharisees when they, as you, accused Him of working on the Sabbath He said it is okay to do good on the Sabbath day..which means if someone needs healing or help it is okay...Luke 6...this does not negate God's Holy day...

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37 minutes ago, heretoeternity said:

jesus two commandments "Love God with all your heart, soul and mind" and Love your Neighbour as yourself is a summary of the Ten commandments  not instead of...as He said in Matthew 19.17 "to enter into life keep the Commandments and He identified the Ten commandments...How do you love God/Jesus? You keep His commandments John 14.15

no it is not and you can read the last half of Matthew chapter 25 to see the difference and it cost people eternity with God.

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13 hours ago, other one said:

You can twist is any way you wish, but Jesus admitted to working on the sabbath, and said the Father was also.

 

It's no twisting at all... The Scriptures teach God is without sin! Scriptures teach violation of the commandment is sin!
Thus the work man reasoned God meant was not the work God commanded not to do... I believe if you study it out you'll find it is the work of the curse God spoke of here

Genesis 3:19 (KJV)
[19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
as the time unspecified by the verse ->the curse we must assume it to be seven days for the period is from created to death of the body.

Exodus 35:2 (KJV)
[2] Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

When this law was given God makes mention of it's purpose Worship of God and much later

Mark 2:27 (KJV)
[27] And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.
As God gave man sabbath to worship Him -God also lifted the curse of working for his daily bread ... God maintains creation 24/7 and as Christ was also maintaining creation through healing He did not violate the sabbath of God as Go, or as it was intended to man as Man!

 

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14 hours ago, other one said:

You can twist is any way you wish, but Jesus admitted to working on the sabbath, and said the Father was also.

 

It's no twisting at all... The Scriptures teach God is without sin! Scriptures teach violation of the commandment is sin!
Thus the work man reasoned God meant was not the work God commanded not to do... I believe if you study it out you'll find it is the work of the curse God spoke of here

Genesis 3:19 (KJV)
[19] In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
as the time unspecified by the verse ->the curse we must assume it to be seven days for the period is from created to death of the body.

Exodus 35:2 (KJV)
[2] Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

When this law was given God makes mention of it's purpose Worship of God and much later

Mark 2:27 (KJV)
[27] And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath.
As God gave man sabbath to worship Him -God also lifted the curse of working for his daily bread ... God maintains creation 24/7 and as Christ was also maintaining creation through healing He did not violate the sabbath of God as God or as it was intended to man as Man!

 

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