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At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? 

I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. :) 


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I believe it was when they accepted Jesus as their Messiah.


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From Jesus view point some time prior to His prayer in John 17 were He says to the father Ive lost none but the son of perdition that the scriptures might be fulfilled. When they were born again might be a different Question. In that prayer He sees us being saved by faith thru there words. verses 20-21 but the reality of that is  only realized when we are born again. I am pretty confident i was a lost sheep before that thank God we have a good Shepard.

Sorry forgive me did not mean to split hairs on that question it is a good one i know what you meant. Went with first scrip. that pop into head. I know better. Truthfully i don't know.  

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14 hours ago, Prophet of change Lou L said:

From Jesus view point some time prior to His prayer in John 17 were He says to the father Ive lost none but the son of perdition that the scriptures might be fulfilled. When they were born again might be a different Question. In that prayer He sees us being saved by faith thru there words. verses 20-21 but the reality of that is  only realized when we are born again. I am pretty confident i was a lost sheep before that thank God we have a good Shepard.

Sorry forgive me did not mean to split hairs on that question it is a good one i know what you meant. Went with first scrip. that pop into head. I know better. Truthfully i don't know.  

Thank you for your insight and honesty. It is an interesting question because we really don't know . 

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

They were saved the same time all mankind was saved that would be saved ...nearly 2000 years ago on a hill outside Jerusalem.

That's sounding like universalism. 


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Thank you for clarifying.


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16 hours ago, Jewels7 said:

At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? 

I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. :) 

I don't think it was during their first meeting with the Lord otherwise Judas would have made it.  I would agree with Yowm that it happened at the cross of Calvary.  


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They were saved the same time all mankind was saved that would be saved ...nearly 2000 years ago on a hill outside Jerusalem.                        Yown

Beautiful reply,:amen:


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 Some were even before Christ was born, they were waiting for Him, looking for, and some followed Him before. Some found him then followed Him at that time they were save. He was the savior before the Earth was created. What is better to say I follow and don't or follow. 


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Thats right Ezekial,,,,,,,Sved thr6ough  their FAith(by Grace) in the Promise of the Seed YET to come.....................


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20 hours ago, Jewels7 said:

At Pentecost? With the appearance of the Holy Spirit of God? .

 

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When Jesus washed their feet? During the last supper? 

These events took place before the Cross.

We can not say that the disciples had the understanding that Jesus had to die first. 

When Jesus died the disciples agree that Jesus was not the Christ, because at that time they believe that the Christ will never die. 

At supper time, the disciples were not born from above, they were not one with the Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus. 

Before the Pentecost, and after the Cross and the ressuraction , the disciples believe that Jesus was raised from the dead , and he is the Christ. 

That's when they were born from above, and they were one with the Heavenly Father, on account of Jesus Christ,  and that was before the Pentecost. 

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I don't think I've ever seen this discussed before. I look forward to your thoughts. :) 

 

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