Mystery Babylon status rev.17

[wingnut-]

34 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Zechariah 12     King James Version (KJV)

² Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

 

Trembling and drunkenness in the context here.  How would you compare them.  

 

They both speak to unsteadiness.  Consider this, men have been fighting over this piece of real estate for as long as it has existed.  In Daniel, we see who is behind this constant drive to take the land.  God has put it in the enemy to do so, it is Jerusalem that drives men wild.  The crusades were fought over this city, and it continues to this very day.  Satan is determined to claim this city, and Revelation tells us that he will claim it and set up his government from there.

There is absolutely a spiritual connection in regards to Jerusalem, and each time the enemy thinks he has taken it over God has taken it back.  It is not the present day city God cares about, it never has been, but the enemy does not understand that.  The New Jerusalem is what God cares about, and the enemy simply doesn't grasp that point.  Jerusalem makes men crazy, that is the best way I know how to say it.

God bless

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, warrior12 said:

The thing is i do not want to say that for sure as i really don't know.  I only mention what i have and is going through in this life here now and before.   I have been hindered quite a bit from ****.  It's complicated and not for a forum talk.  Maybe later on i can make some rational statement, but for now i am being truthful in saying that that spiritual cup is nothing like you would ever imagine.  enough said about that and would not venture there again.  You know, people judge and make assertions about what you write and say.  They may not post it, but in their mind it is there, hence the reason we have to be mindful of what we say on the www.

I agree we must be mindful. And I am well aware that many people on forums, when someone says they actually heard God's voice, immediately go into some kind of resistance mode because unbelief rises up. The truth is, we ALL should be hearing His voice.  Again I am convinced that few here get into any kind of spiritual warfare. You could always send me a personal message.

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, wingnut- said:

 

They both speak to unsteadiness.  Consider this, men have been fighting over this piece of real estate for as long as it has existed.  In Daniel, we see who is behind this constant drive to take the land.  God has put it in the enemy to do so, it is Jerusalem that drives men wild.  The crusades were fought over this city, and it continues to this very day.  Satan is determined to claim this city, and Revelation tells us that he will claim it and set up his government from there.

There is absolutely a spiritual connection in regards to Jerusalem, and each time the enemy thinks he has taken it over God has taken it back.  It is not the present day city God cares about, it never has been, but the enemy does not understand that.  The New Jerusalem is what God cares about, and the enemy simply doesn't grasp that point.  Jerusalem makes men crazy, that is the best way I know how to say it.

God bless

Now this post I can understand and agree with.  Ha ha! Crazy is a good word. In the end, when Jesus touches down, He ill touch down in Jerusalem. And Jerusalem will be HIS world headquarters for the thousand years. This is why the Beast will choose Jerusalem, for he will come in the place of Jesus Christ, making people believe HE is the long awaited Messiah.

[warrior12]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

I agree we must be mindful. And I am well aware that many people on forums, when someone says they actually heard God's voice, immediately go into some kind of resistance mode because unbelief rises up. The truth is, we ALL should be hearing His voice.  Again I am convinced that few here get into any kind of spiritual warfare. You could always send me a personal message.

Actually i did started  PM message to you, but decided to leave it as it is.  Anyway i hope everyone will pray that the Lord would enlighten their walk as we trod on.  Thanks for your understanding. 

[n2thelight]

16 hours ago, warrior12 said:

So just to be clear,what you are saying is , Mystery Babylon is not in operation today and would only be on the scene at or near the tribulation period.  My question though is hundreds of million of people don't participate in religion per say, but believes in Humanism as their concept of life, which there is no hereafter. Force worship is not religion, which the antichrist system would be.     Mystery Babylon intoxicates with her cup. What's in the cup.  It is an ingredient that those who drink will kill for as it will be a drink like no other, for the whole world to drink of it.

 

Mystery Babylon is deception,it's been in place since the garden.Everything in the Word since then has been types,ensamples,showing what to expect in the future,as it becomes literal .

The deception is satan pretending to be Christ....

No one can be forced to follow satan,they will do so on their own free will as they will think him to be Christ

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎06‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 7:11 PM, Sister said:

Thanks for clarifying that.  You can edit your post if you havn't already done so, but I understood what you were saying and really enjoyed hearing it explained like that.

But where is it ???

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎06‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 0:58 PM, warrior12 said:

My issue with the harlot being a religious system of any kind is that the harlot seduces and affects the whole world, not only those who are religious.  Meaning all, will participate or seduced or tempted [in the case for belivers] to drink or taste her cup to be enticed to participate in her orgies, debauchery ect. Porn or sexual sins is an enslaving product of her wickedness, because she is very wicked and vile and it is an explosive product today the world has come to accept as normal. But nevertheless, but the stats are many christians  watch porn on saturday and are in church on sunday.  seventy percent [in the USA] is the figure, it is indeed alarming and worrying.  Just a little rant about porn there.

² With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication

The INHABITANTS of the earth [ every man] are forced or persuaded to be made drunk with the wine of her fornication.   It is a spiritual treasure that she captivates the world with and  men will kill for it.  More to be said about that.

Anyway, you are in the camp of a religious system being the harlot.  I am saying camp, because others have different views.  thanks for your insights. 

  The  term 'camp',  is very appropriate  here .

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎07‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 5:02 AM, n2thelight said:

The first beast is a political system,(NWO)that will fall apart(deadly wound),satan as the antichrist will heal the wound.At that time it goes to a one world religious system with satan as it's head while pretending to be Christ.

That's the reason why it's a religious system. satan pretending to be Christ is the deception of which the tribulation is all about.

Daniel 8:23 "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and under standing dark sentences, shall stand up."

Daniel 8:24 "And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

The political beast will and has arrived first, and it will fall, Then Satan will come to earth with his fallen angels, and revive this beast, only then it will be the religious part of the beast that will be in power. It is religious because Satan is portrayed as the True Christ. "It shall come to pass!"

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

If you are not sealed God will seen you a strong delusion to believe that lie(deception)

II Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness [deceit] of unrighteousness in [for] them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth,"

II Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion [send them a working of error], that they should a lie;"

If you want to believe a lie, God will allow it; in fact he will help you into the system of deceptions Satan will bring on the earth. Do you really think God will come here and personally show you, and talk to you when you refuse to believe His Word, when He gave it in such detail through the prophets and His Son. If you desire to believe that your going to fly out of here, and refuse His word, He will so block your mind that you will not be capable of understanding truth. God will send the "strong delusion" over your mind. The strong delusion is an act of love given by God for your protection.

Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

This is satan as the antichrist pretending to be the true Christ.

Revelation 13:13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men."

Revelation 13:14 "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles [signs] which he had power [it was given him] to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live."

In order to be damned you must follow satan on your own free will and all except for those who are sealed will....

 I don't think you realise ,that the humanist , politically correct, present system, is the New Religion ,and , denying it will bring punishment (to death ) , while at the moment it only brings social exclusion ,and threats .

[Sister]

31 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

But where is it ???

Thallasa

Your post or the edit button?

It took me a while to find your post, and it's on page 17.

If you are asking about the edit function, just go to your post, and hit the edit box on bottom of screen, correct your text, then hit save.

[Guest Thallasa]

8 minutes ago, Sister said:

Thallasa

Your post or the edit button?

It took me a while to find your post, and it's on page 17.

If you are asking about the edit function, just go to your post, and hit the edit box on bottom of screen, correct your text, then hit save.

  Got it ,the post ,and corrected .