Is God responsible for Satan's actions?

[other one]

2 hours ago, BobRyan said:

No wait... yes they are.

 

See Rev 12 - serpent, satan, devil.

Rev 12 - one third of the angels fall and join Satan.

 

 

That is true that a third of the angels follow Satan, however those angels are not demons.

[other one]

4 minutes ago, Giller said:

Fallen angels are demons, but as far as these Nephilims being demons, that is not scriptural at all, you do not find it in the bible.

Nephilim are giants and not demons.

I lived with them for nearly 10 years......  they are the disembodied spirits of dead nephilim.

[other one]

Think what you will, I'm not going to argue about it.

[Riccardo]

Where in the bible is the scripture that says the Nephilims are demons? 

And where in the bible does it say the world was created for humans to judge Angels .

How about we stick to clear scripture & not speculate on every ambiguous section.

 One could possibly say that humans were created by God (to fall), for without the fall we would not have known the grace & love of God. Prove me wrong, there is no scripture for it, but this is my speculation & it shows more logic, there's an old saying from where I come, opinions are like bums everybody has one.  Lets stick to clear scripture.

Edited May 17, 2017 by Riccardo

[Guest]

Nephilim in Greek means Gigantes which is the word used in the Septuagint. Nephal also means fallen. So the nephilim are the mighty ones who became the disembodied demons.

[Riccardo]

Yes I know what nephilim means, I repeat, show me from scripture where it says the nephilim are disembodied demonds. I really don't want your opinion. 

[BobRyan]

14 hours ago, other one said:

That is true that a third of the angels follow Satan, however those angels are not demons.

They are called demons - as fallen angels -- just as Lucifer is called Satan and "the devil" in his fallen state.

[BobRyan]

2 hours ago, Riccardo said:

Yes I know what nephilim means, I repeat, show me from scripture where it says the nephilim are disembodied demonds. I really don't want your opinion. 

Nephilim are "giants" and they lived both before the flood (Gen 6) and also after the flood - which means that Noah and his family were also Nephilim. Giant by comparison to men in Moses' day. And of course Genesis 5 shows that they lived many times longer than life spans today or in Moses' day.

Nofhing in the Bible says that Nephilim means demonic or means "half-human". In fact the myth that angels formed families with humans is denied by Christ in Matt 22 who tells us that Angels were not created with that feature.

Who then are the "sons of God" according to the Bible? In John 1 we have a good example of what that is "to as many as believed on Him - to them He gave the right to be called the sons of God"

Edited May 17, 2017 by BobRyan

[enoob57]

14 hours ago, other one said:

That is true that a third of the angels follow Satan, however those angels are not demons.

OO if this is true then in this statement of God

Matthew 25:41 (KJV)

[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

would God, to be all inclusive, place demons also need be in this list if their separate from angels? Because if demons are not fallen angels then God no where in His Word speaks to them of the placement in hell... He tells why hell was created and also that fallen man an angels will go there but no where demons? Point being if they exist as you say then would not God also speak specicifc to their judgement?

[other one]

the bible says Noah was pure in his genetics.....   neither he nor his sons had nephilim genes.