Muslims 'outraged' over billboard that insults the prophet mohammad

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9 minutes ago, other one said:

I don't think that it's hate that puts most of us against Islam, it's a good understanding of how Islam works....   it's interesting that most of the people who push Islam as a simple religion have really not studied it thoroughly.

I find it it's interesting that most of the people who push Islam as a nothing but a bunch of killers have really spent any time with Muslims and gotten to know them and their views.   

I spent from the 3rd grade to the 7th grade growing up in a Muslim country, so I have experiences most will never have

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3 minutes ago, Steve_S said:

Are you okay with it having been thrown (by amendment, of course) out with regards to slavery and women enfranchisement?

That is not throwing it out, that is changing it by the very rules it sets forth for the process.  

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Our society already has changed as a response to their actions. Any society that comes under attack in the way that happened on September 11th is going to invariably change. I would not be okay with basic freedoms being taken away, no.

Already happening.  We have already handed over any illusion of privacy and we have given our executive branch the power to detain anyone they deem necessary indefinitely without recourse, including citizens.  

[Steve_S]

Just now, Running Gator said:

That is not throwing it out, that is changing it by the very rules it sets forth for the process.  

So, even though you'd disagree with the content of such an amendment, you'd be okay, from a purely philosophical standpoint with regards to functional legality and process, with an amendment being passed that deported all non-citizen muslims and banned all future muslim immigration?

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10 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You use the term Muslim, what are you basing your definition on?

On what the Muslims say it is.  I never want an outside to tell me what a "true Christian" is, so I will not do it to anyone else. 

A wise man once said this about the topic...So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them

[Steve_S]

12 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

On what the Muslims say it is.  I never want an outside to tell me what a "true Christian" is, so I will not do it to anyone else. 

A wise man once said this about the topic...So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them

It does matter, though. A "true Christian" is really defined above all else by faith in Christ. There can be no such definition for muslims, because muslims are worshiping nothing.

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20 minutes ago, Steve_S said:

So, even though you'd disagree with the content of such an amendment, you'd be okay, from a purely philosophical standpoint with regards to functional legality and process, with an amendment being passed that deported all non-citizen muslims and banned all future muslim immigration?

Yes, and then I would more than likely leave the country for good as it would no longer be the country I grew up in or spent 20 years defending.   I could not live in a country where 75% of the people felt that way

[other one]

3 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

I find it it's interesting that most of the people who push Islam as a nothing but a bunch of killers have really spent any time with Muslims and gotten to know them and their views.   

I spent from the 3rd grade to the 7th grade growing up in a Muslim country, so I have experiences most will never have

You are speaking as to people and i am referring to the religion itself.   I have met and talked to thousands of Christians that have never read the Bible. Do they really understand what being a Christian is, or do they just go to church and believe what their pastors teach.......

Likewise most of the Moslims I have met really don't read their holy books either, and in many countries they cant read at all.  So i would say that fot the most part as much as i have read and studied, i may well know more about the workings of islam than most muslims over the world.

Until you have read the Koran at least once in chronological order, "Reliance of the Traveller" (certified English translation of The Suni Sharia Law) and the first two volumes of Bukhari's H adith, you shouldn't tell me what I do and dont know about Islam.

I would agree that there are a lot of people who claim to be Muslims that do not want to be violent and just live out lives and raise their families...  just as there are Sunday Christians who really are not Christians.....  But the difference is that when the Sunday Christian reads and understands the Bible that learn to love God and Love their neighbor......   And when the same kind of Muslim reads their holy books, they learn to take up the goal of submitting the whole world to Sharia law and fear their God.

True Christians love God and Love their neighbors, and True Suni Muslims are ISIS.  And that is what hundreds of hours of study has taught everyone I know who has taken up the study.

Approach  the Muslims you know and ask them to join you in a push to get an ammendment to the constitution to ban Sharia law here in the US and see where it takes you.

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1 minute ago, other one said:

You are speaking as to people and i am referring to the religion itself.   I have met and talked to thousands of Christians that have never read the Bible. Do they really understand what being a Christian is, or do they just go to church and believe what their pastors teach.......

Likewise most of the Moslims I have met really don't read their holy books either, and in many countries they cant read at all.  So i would say that fot the most part as much as i have read and studied, i may well know more about the workings of islam than most muslims over the world.

Until you have read the Koran at least once in chronological order, "Reliance of the Traveller" (certified English translation of The Suni Sharia Law) and the first two volumes of Bukhari's H adith, you shouldn't tell me what I do and dont know about Islam.

I would agree that there are a lot of people who claim to be Muslims that do not want to be violent and just live out lives and raise their families...  just as there are Sunday Christians who really are not Christians.....  But the difference is that when the Sunday Christian reads and understands the Bible that learn to love God and Love their neighbor......   And when the same kind of Muslim reads their holy books, they learn to take up the goal of submitting the whole world to Sharia law and fear their God.

True Christians love God and Love their neighbors, and True Suni Muslims are ISIS.  And that is what hundreds of hours of study has taught everyone I know who has taken up the study.

Approach  the Muslims you know and ask them to join you in a push to get an ammendment to the constitution to ban Sharia law here in the US and see where it takes you.

The people are the religion.   Your view of what their holy book says is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. 

[other one]

3 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

Yes, and then I would more than likely leave the country for good as it would no longer be the country I grew up in or spent 20 years defending.   I could not live in a country where 75% of the people felt that way

We would take up collections for your plane/boat/bus tickets and it wouldn't cost you much to go.

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Just now, other one said:

We would take up collections for your plane/boat/bus tickets and it wouldn't cost you much to go.

Don't worry, I have plenty for the trip.  If we ever get to the point to where 75% of the country is that bigoted, it is not a place I want to live and will happily leave.