Anti-Sha'ria rallies planned across the U.S. worry muslim leaders

[MorningGlory]

I am all for the anti-Sha'ria rallies and, if one is close enough to me, I will attend.  The islamists are complaining that the rallies are discriminatory and fueled by hate but we can't overlook one important fact.  The rallies are against  SHA'RIA LAWS, not against their so called 'religion'.  They are trying to muddy the waters and appear to be victims but, as the article states, antimuslim sentiment is growing in the U.S. so maybe muslims need to note this and take steps to integrate before violence does occur.  I believe the onus is on them.  The ironic thing is that in their home countries they have no freedom whatsoever so why do they not value the lives they have here? 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-sharia-rallies-weekend-worry-muslim-leaders-080343907.html

[wingnut-]

I'm attending one here tomorrow, which I better since I had a hand in making it happen.

[MorningGlory]

14 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

I'm attending one here tomorrow, which I better since I had a hand in making it happen.

Really? An anti-Sha'ria rally?  Good for you, wingnut.  You'll need to tell us all about it.

[LadyKay]

23 minutes ago, wingnut- said:

I'm attending one here tomorrow, which I better since I had a hand in making it happen.

I don't understand. Could you explain what the reason is for these rallies? Thank You. 

[MorningGlory]

4 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I don't understand. Could you explain what the reason is for these rallies? Thank You. 

It helps to read the news story.  Here's the reasoning behind the rallies:

The group organizing the rallies, ACT for America, has chapters around the country and says it is focused on fighting terrorism and promoting national security. It says it condemns bias against religious groups and is "proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with peaceful Western Muslims as well as peaceful Muslims worldwide."

Yet many Muslims and others say the group promotes a distorted and prejudiced view of Islam.

ACT for America activists portray Shariah as largely incompatible with American democracy and often warn of a stealth effort to replace U.S. law with Islamic law."

[Guest shiloh357]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

I am all for the anti-Sha'ria rallies and, if one is close enough to me, I will attend.  The islamists are complaining that the rallies are discriminatory and fueled by hate but we can't overlook one important fact.  The rallies are against  SHA'RIA LAWS, not against their so called 'religion'.  They are trying to muddy the waters and appear to be victims but, as the article states, antimuslim sentiment is growing in the U.S. so maybe muslims need to note this and take steps to integrate before violence does occur.  I believe the onus is on them.  The ironic thing is that in their home countries they have no freedom whatsoever so why do they not value the lives they have here? 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-sharia-rallies-weekend-worry-muslim-leaders-080343907.html

I will go too, if one is near my area.   As Muslim population gets larger, they will grow louder and louder in their call for Sharia Law to be implemented in the US.

If these people want to live under Sharia law, then leave the US and go to a country that has Sharia law.   Those who want Sharia law in the US are not needed here, are not wanted here and do not belong.   Those who actively seek to get it implemented should be deported from the US.  We have a Constitution and to attempt to overthrow our Constitution is an attempt to overthrow our government and that is, by law, sedition.

[wingnut-]

6 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Really? An anti-Sha'ria rally?  Good for you, wingnut.  You'll need to tell us all about it.

 

Yes, in Southfield, MI at noon today.  This all started over an incident in Detroit where a doctor mutilated two young girls, he is facing criminal charges.  The city of Dearborn has wrongfully been linked to this incident because of its large population of Arab-Americans, but the actual group behind the move to enact Sharia law in this state stems from Hamtramck.  An area that was once known for its high population of Polish immigrants that has now shifted to an Arabic area and is touted as the first american city to contain a majority of Muslims on the city council.

[wingnut-]

6 hours ago, LadyKay said:

I don't understand. Could you explain what the reason is for these rallies? Thank You. 

 

To keep Sharia law out of the state of Michigan, it is in large part a rally to show the lawmakers in Lansing that the residents of Michigan intend to remain under Constitutional law, not foreign law.

[SavedByGrace1980]

11 hours ago, LadyKay said:

I don't understand. Could you explain what the reason is for these rallies? Thank You. 

If I may, I think that what you do not understand is that Islam is as much a political movement as it is a religion.  You have to see it as both to understand.  If you do not see it as both, you will not understand.

The First Amendment to the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion to all citizens.  Individual Muslims can and should be able to observe and practice their religion without interference from the Government.  No more nor  less than individual Jews, Christians, Sikhs or Hindus.

So that hopefully addresses one aspect of your concern.

The USA however has a history of taking a dim view of POLITICAL MOVEMENTS (of which Islam has a component called sharia) which seek to undermine or usurp the laws as written by our legislatures and under the Constitution.  We fought a Civil War over it in the 1860s.

More recently, Nazis and Communists came under government scrutiny.  These groups were seen as a threat to our way of life and more importantly to our stability.  You simply cannot have two sets of laws in a SECULAR society.

You may not agree - but Islam IS a political movement.  It (as a political movement) simply is NOT compatible with a Constitutional Republic.  So these 'rallies' (as long as they remain peaceful) ARE perfectly justified and to be expected.

No one of good will thinks that Muslims should not be allowed to practice their religion.

But no one who is sane thinks that they should be able to impose 'sharia' and not encounter resistance.  And if 'Muslim leaders' are offended by this, well that's too bad.  Perhaps then they should focus their attention and ire to their own house.

Clean it up - root out the individuals causing problems - then we can all live in peace.

Blessings,

-Ed

Edited June 10, 2017 by SavedByGrace1981

[other one]

The problem is that you can't separate the religion out of islam. When you try and do that,you no longer have Islam.