Obama Warns Against the Rise of Populism

[other one]

9 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said:

Actually, I can think of a few words. Go to You Tube and watch, Montenegro PM reveals how he felt to be 'shoved' by Trump. 

The Prime Minister wasn't offended at all. And he praised Donald Trump after that meeting. The Prime Minister also said that it is natural for the president of the United States to be at the front of such a photo. 

 

that may well be the case, but it was still a pretty tacky way of getting there.    When your wife was a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years and you hear all those stories, it makes one kind of sensitive to grown men acting like 5 year olds.

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, other one said:

that may well be the case, but it was still a pretty tacky way of getting there.    When your wife was a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years and you hear all those stories, it makes one kind of sensitive to grown men acting like 5 year olds.

Would you like another nail to hit on the head with that hammer  

[Anonymous Aristotle]

1 hour ago, other one said:

that may well be the case, but it was still a pretty tacky way of getting there.    When your wife was a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years and you hear all those stories, it makes one kind of sensitive to grown men acting like 5 year olds.

It's in the perspective of the viewer of the event. We don't know what transpired before president Trump arrived. He could have been hanging back and someone informed him of what the Prime Minister later said. That the president of the USA is always in front.

Perhaps a reasonable presumption in watching this news coverage or the video at YT is, look how president Trump deferred to all the other members. Because he was well back from the front of the group. And perhaps someone informed him, being this was his first photo shoot with the members, that he was to be in the foremost position for the shot.

And so president Trump rushed to find his place. Besides that, the crowd was gathered. They were not lined up for the picture itself. They were in a bunch talking among themselves. 

Further, there is of course as we know in America a resistance faction that will never approve anything president Trump does. Ever. They can be understood as disruptor's, dividers, of a nation because they gather in a bunch under the umbrella term of The Resistance. Or, Never Trumpers. And that is much like those five year olds you mention in the behavior demonstrated by them is one of whining. "Wahhh! we don't like him!"  And they take their toys and walk away. Then they turn and chuck them at Trump. And plan to for four long years. Imagine the size of their arms with all that exercise. 

And lastly, our opinions are just that. When the so called aggrieved party, the Prime Minister, was not offended at all, as he said in a statement when asked about this, that's what counts. What is ignored by those Resistance "five year olds", is that not only did the Prime Minister inform us he was not offended, but that president Trump was suppose to be at the front of the group in the picture, that says it all. Because the PM some are defending on his behalf of being offended, wasn't! 

In fact, the PM also in that same interview praised president Trump. That too is ignored by president Trump's detractors. 

Really, being the PM went on the record long ago when this was new news, it for everyone else is a non-issue. Always was. What we're witnessing now is, per your judgment, who are the real five year olds acting out about this. 

 

 

 

 

[Anonymous Aristotle]

9 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Gotta hand it to you, AA; you're right on top of most things.  What is your favorite pizza?

All of them! Hey, it's pizza. Just not with anchovies.  Did you ever once see those old Jacques Cousteau programs? Did he ever once narrate saying, and here we have the magnificent school of stinky-fish anchovies, the brilliant swimming slivers of the sea? Noooooo. 

 

[Anonymous Aristotle]

3 hours ago, Running Gator said:

True, there are other words but most of them are not allowed on this forum!  

 

 That isn't the image you put forth in the F word thread. 

 

 

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I have seen Markovic's response.  Markovic is a true statesman and responded as such.  In my opinion his response just further highlights the boorish nature of what Trump did.

 PM Markovic wasn't offended, praised Trump, and stated what everyone who's ever seen the NATO summit photo knows. That the United States president is always in the front row. And you disrespect PM's own statement concerning how he actually felt about president Trump moving past him,  by insisting in your own way that PM Markovic's  isn't of a character wherein he would speak honestly about the incident. But would defer to being what you believe qualifies as a "true statesman"; someone who lies about being offended, and then lies when they later praise their offender.   

And you do all this to defend the offense you believe PM Markovic suffered from president Donald Trump. 

That's a special kind of reality you've got going there. You impugn the integrity and honesty of the PM, just to assail Trump's actions on his behalf. Contrary to what Markovic feels about the whole thing . And he was there!   That's so cute. In a, man! How desperate is The Resistance? Oh! That desperate! Kind of way.   Don't worry. Less than four years now and TR can let it all go and get back to working on being tolerant of a free democratic Constitutional Republic and its elections.

 

[Running Gator]

54 minutes ago, Anonymous Aristotle said:

 That isn't the image you put forth in the F word thread. 

Well, yes it is 100% consistent with my stance in that thread.  Yet another personal attack from you has failed.

 

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PM Markovic wasn't offended, praised Trump, and stated what everyone who's ever seen the NATO summit photo knows. That the United States president is always in the front row. And you disrespect PM's own statement concerning how he actually felt about president Trump moving past him,  by insisting in your own way that PM Markovic's  isn't of a character wherein he would speak honestly about the incident. But would defer to being what you believe qualifies as a "true statesman"; someone who lies about being offended, and then lies when they later praise their offender.   

And you do all this to defend the offense you believe PM Markovic suffered from president Donald Trump. 

That's a special kind of reality you've got going there. You impugn the integrity and honesty of the PM, just to assail Trump's actions on his behalf. Contrary to what Markovic feels about the whole thing . And he was there!   That's so cute. In a, man! How desperate is The Resistance? Oh! That desperate! Kind of way.   Don't worry. Less than four years now and TR can let it all go and get back to working on being tolerant of a free democratic Constitutional Republic and its elections.

 

Whether Markovic was offended or not is totally irrelevant to if the action was the right thing to do or not.   On this forum I have said things to people that they said in the open thread they were not bothered by or offended by and the Mods still punished me for saying them, as they were wrong irregardless of if the target was offended or not.

Shoving someone out of your way to get to the front of the line is wrong in every circumstance, there is no scenario you can give in which such an action is not wrong.   And you turning this topic into one more chance to further your personal vendetta against me does not change that what Trump did was wrong. 

[other one]

4 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said:

 That isn't the image you put forth in the F word thread. 

 

 

 PM Markovic wasn't offended, praised Trump, and stated what everyone who's ever seen the NATO summit photo knows. That the United States president is always in the front row. And you disrespect PM's own statement concerning how he actually felt about president Trump moving past him,  by insisting in your own way that PM Markovic's  isn't of a character wherein he would speak honestly about the incident. But would defer to being what you believe qualifies as a "true statesman"; someone who lies about being offended, and then lies when they later praise their offender.   

And you do all this to defend the offense you believe PM Markovic suffered from president Donald Trump. 

That's a special kind of reality you've got going there. You impugn the integrity and honesty of the PM, just to assail Trump's actions on his behalf. Contrary to what Markovic feels about the whole thing . And he was there!   That's so cute. In a, man! How desperate is The Resistance? Oh! That desperate! Kind of way.   Don't worry. Less than four years now and TR can let it all go and get back to working on being tolerant of a free democratic Constitutional Republic and its elections.

 

well, I was offended and I am about the most die hard Trump fan on this board.....   though I don't always express all the positive things I see about him or people get the idea I'm obsessed with him....       One does not push people out of one's way.....   they at most tap them on the shoulder and say excuse me.

[MorningGlory]

5 hours ago, Anonymous Aristotle said:

All of them! Hey, it's pizza. Just not with anchovies.  Did you ever once see those old Jacques Cousteau programs? Did he ever once narrate saying, and here we have the magnificent school of stinky-fish anchovies, the brilliant swimming slivers of the sea? Noooooo. 

 

I knew it!  Anchovies are the ONLY thing I won't touch on a pizza too.  You can tell a lot about a person by their pizza preferences. 

[MorningGlory]

54 minutes ago, other one said:

well, I was offended and I am about the most die hard Trump fan on this board.....   though I don't always express all the positive things I see about him or people get the idea I'm obsessed with him....       One does not push people out of one's way.....   they at most tap them on the shoulder and say excuse me.

It may have only appeared that way; the POTUS has met with a LOT of foreign dignitaries already and it doesn't seem to be his MO to push people.  I would go with what the 'pushee' said. 

[Running Gator]

13 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

It may have only appeared that way; the POTUS has met with a LOT of foreign dignitaries already and it doesn't seem to be his MO to push people.  I would go with what the 'pushee' said. 

Simple question, did Trump push the man or not?