Talking Halloween

[Steve_K]

11 hours ago, warrior12 said:

A topic like this  could never be out of season.  Come on LK, get your feet wet. 

Amen Warrior

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Steve_K said:

I wonder how it makes the kids feel when all their friends are out trick or treating and having innocent fun, and they are sitting home. Its like making them stay home from a Christmas party because Santa is there. 

Your argument or concerns are rooted out of compromise.  It is not innocent fun.

Children need to learn that Jesus isnt in any of these pagan festivals. When children are taught to love Jesus and not the world,they are okay with it. A parents responsibility is to raise their children in the word of God. Children need to be taught to not compromise and starting young is when we should do it. There will always be festivals by pagans till the very end of time.

So then what happens when the kids start growing up to be tweens and teens who want to go to parties where pot is smoked and beer and wine is drunk. The kids are experimenting with sex and all kinds of wicked things!  Why should we stop them? By your reasoning, we shouldnt because the world is doing it! They might get their feelings hurt? SO WHAT!

Which btw, they wont care if they are raised right from the beginning! We teach our children young to come out of the world and to not do as the world does. We teach our kids to resemble Christ and not the world. There are many liberties in a christians life and there is absolutely no reason to cave to pagan rituals.

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, LadyKay said:

Goodness is it time for the Halloween debate already. Its not even September yet. 

How do you stand on the Xmass tree? Personally I think them to be okay, even encouraged if they are used  for fish farm habitat afterward.

Sorry world, I am tired weary and I came here  in hope of some comic relief.

[LadyKay]

Well reading over the post it looks like I am the only one here that does Halloween. I go trick or treating, I dress up as something, and I carve pumpkins. ( now this is the point in the post that you tell me how wrong I am and I'm going against the Bible) But that is okay cause you all told me the same thing when I said I read the Harry Potter books. So I'm cool with that.  I have come to an understanding about Halloween so I have no issues with it. If you take issue with it, then don't do it. Lock your doors, hide under your bed, do whatever you think is the right thing for you and your family to do. If it feels wrong for you don't do it. 

Okay, well carry on with your debate. I will be back for the Christmas tree debate that I am sure will soon follow. 

[Neighbor]

All Halos Eve

...."Halloween is All-Hallows'-Eve which is the night-before-All-Saints'- Day. Some tell me they understand that Halloween pranks were a post-Reformation contribution to plague Catholics who kept the vigil of All Saints. Now it is possible that Halloween was abused for such a purpose; nevertheless, during all the Christian centuries up until the simplification of the Church calendar in 1956, it was a liturgical vigil in its own right and thus has a reason for being. Learning this, one pious lady of our acquaintance was heard to say: "Oh, I'm so glad to know that. I was about to write my congressman and suggest the whole thing be outlawed." 

A celebration much like our Halloween, with bonfires and feasting on apples and nuts and harvest fruits, was part of pagan worship for centuries. The Britons celebrated in honor of their sun-god with bonfires, a tribute to the light that brought them abundant harvest. At the same time they saluted Samhain, their "lord of death," who was thought to gather together at last the souls of the year's dead which had been consigned to the bodies of animals in punishment for their sins. The Romans celebrated the same kind of festival at this time in honor of their goddess Pomona, a patroness of fruits and gardens. Whether the Church "baptized" these customs or chose this season for her feasts of the dead independent of them, their coincidence shows again how alike men are when they seek God and His ways, give praise, use the language of symbols to express the inexpressible."... More at http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/all-hallow-s-eve.html

 

All I know is I don't look quite so stupid eating wax candy corn, carefully biting the white tip off first, then the yellow mid body, and finally the orange base on Halloween as I do  eating it the rest of the year. So I kinda like halloween! 

You can have fun with big red wax lips all year long, but Kandy Korn? Halloween!

Edited July 30, 2017 by Neighbor

[Guest Thallasa]

57 minutes ago, Steve_K said:

That was uncalled for. I'm Lutheran and I love my church.

But it's alright ,to call the RCC and such like unsaved etc . I have been reading about the fact that much of reformed theology is based on a false idea promoted by Luther on salvation . I think since it changed the whole course of history, it is very serious . It is not personal, as the truth is not personal ,but  it is God we worship , not a man whatever is his name , Luther ,or Calvin ,or some other, like a Pope .

 I am pointing more at false theology than you , as I have no axe to grind with you at all , and wish you well. 

[Guest Thallasa]

22 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

All Halos Eve

...."Halloween is All-Hallows'-Eve which is the night-before-All-Saints'- Day. Some tell me they understand that Halloween pranks were a post-Reformation contribution to plague Catholics who kept the vigil of All Saints. Now it is possible that Halloween was abused for such a purpose; nevertheless, during all the Christian centuries up until the simplification of the Church calendar in 1956, it was a liturgical vigil in its own right and thus has a reason for being. Learning this, one pious lady of our acquaintance was heard to say: "Oh, I'm so glad to know that. I was about to write my congressman and suggest the whole thing be outlawed." 

A celebration much like our Halloween, with bonfires and feasting on apples and nuts and harvest fruits, was part of pagan worship for centuries. The Britons celebrated in honor of their sun-god with bonfires, a tribute to the light that brought them abundant harvest. At the same time they saluted Samhain, their "lord of death," who was thought to gather together at last the souls of the year's dead which had been consigned to the bodies of animals in punishment for their sins. The Romans celebrated the same kind of festival at this time in honor of their goddess Pomona, a patroness of fruits and gardens. Whether the Church "baptized" these customs or chose this season for her feasts of the dead independent of them, their coincidence shows again how alike men are when they seek God and His ways, give praise, use the language of symbols to express the inexpressible."... More at http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/all-hallow-s-eve.html

 

All I know is I don't look quite so stupid eating wax candy corn, carefully biting the white tip off first, then the yellow mid body, and finally the orange base on Halloween as I do  eating it the rest of the year. So I kinda like halloween! 

You can have fun with big red wax lips all year long, but Kandy Korn? Halloween!

Thankyou for a very excellent post .

[Guest Thallasa]

28 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Well reading over the post it looks like I am the only one here that does Halloween. I go trick or treating, I dress up as something, and I carve pumpkins. ( now this is the point in the post that you tell me how wrong I am and I'm going against the Bible) But that is okay cause you all told me the same thing when I said I read the Harry Potter books. So I'm cool with that.  I have come to an understanding about Halloween so I have no issues with it. If you take issue with it, then don't do it. Lock your doors, hide under your bed, do whatever you think is the right thing for you and your family to do. If it feels wrong for you don't do it. 

Okay, well carry on with your debate. I will be back for the Christmas tree debate that I am sure will soon follow. 

Well although some wished to get rid of the more amusing habits of OLDE customs , things like burnig witches, seemed to be very popular , until well after the 'reformation '. 

People who are secure in Christ , can have an occasional glass of wine, or a treacled apple, without losing their salvation .

[Guest Thallasa]

1 hour ago, Steve_K said:

In other words, you're saying you agree w/me. I'm not sure I've ever heard of the "Christian" taliban.

Oh I do agree with you that it is not a good idea to ban things always ,but adapt them, to create a bit of fun ,avoiding extremes . American culture is full of modern 'paganism ' which is very popular ,and which has little merit .

I do not normally critcise individual religious groups unless to counter remarks .I never bring up the  subject ,but .....

I have met some very wonderful German Lutherans  .

[Guest Thallasa]

50 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

How do you stand on the Xmass tree? Personally I think them to be okay, even encouraged if they are used  for fish farm habitat afterward.

Sorry world, I am tired weary and I came here  in hope of some comic relief.

Some would ban Christ too , if He was in front of them .