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9 hours ago, JoeChan82 said:

Acts 17:24-28 …. 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

Titus 1:10-12 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: 11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. 12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

Hello Abdicate,

Paul also quoted extrabiblical sources to prove a point, but that is not an argument for including the works of Greek poets and vain, unruly prophets into the cannon of scripture.  If we take the cannon of scripture off the table, then we might as well go contend for something else, because we have no final authority.  But since this is a thread on Tongues, I do not want to derail the main discussion. Do we have a thread on the authority of the scriptures somewhere else on this site?  Thank you.

The "Cannon" was made by men, not God. Besides, we don't need the written word of God for it is written on our hearts, in the stars, and in creation. Additionally, those in possession of the word of God still need the Author, the Holy Spirit, to sort it out. 

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On 9/11/2017 at 3:19 PM, Robert William said:

Tongues are always a human language.

Peter spoke in Hebrew and the Holy Spirit translated what he said in the minds of the foreigners.

Act 2:1  When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place.
Act 2:2  And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting.
Act 2:3  And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them.
Act 2:4  And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Act 2:5  Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6  And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7  And they were amazed and astonished, saying, "Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?
Act 2:8  And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language?
Act 2:9  Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,
Act 2:10  Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome,
Act 2:11  both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God."


That is interesting.  That would be the gift of the unsaved.   As a gift of the Spirit I have not seen that on any list, did you make that up?

Could it be possible that Peter spoke in the trade language of that day?  That would be Greek.  

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