ytLiJC Posted December 30, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 357 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 65 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 hours ago, hmbld said: Since God created all, there is or was no substance ever, that was not created by Him. if something is created, then there must be some matter from which that thing is created, or how is it possible that there be something made from nothing?! Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted December 30, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, ytLiJC said: if something is created, then there must be some matter from which that thing is created, or how is it possible that there be something made from nothing?! Blessings God is the beginning. Nothing before Him. God spoke nothing into creation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted December 30, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 hours ago, hmbld said: God is the beginning. Nothing before Him. God spoke nothing into creation! How did God create and make the material universe? Undoubtedly, God created and made the different parts of the material universe and each thing therein, using the same care and time as in the six days when He restored the planet Earth to a habitable state and made a new order of Earth creatures. In the work of the six days, it is stated that God, with His hands FORMED each of the living creatures and man out of the dust of the ground (Gen. 1:20-27; 2: 7-25; Job 26:13; Rom. 9:20; 1 Tim. 2:13). It is not only clear that God created the heavens, and the Earth and all things "In the beginning," or each in its own period , but it is also clear that God FORMED all things with His hands. God FORMED both light and darkness (Isa. 45:7). He did not do this in the first day of Gen. 1"3-5, for at that time He merely divided them. Therefore they must have been created and formed before the first day. It is also stated that God FORMED the Earth (Ps. 8:3, 6; 90:2; 95:5); the heavens (Ps. 8:3; 19:1; 102:25; Isa. 40:12) the planets (Ps. 8:3isa. 40:26; 44:12; 48:13; Heb. 1:10) and all things (Prov. 26:10). From a study of all these Scriptures given above and those on the creation of all things, it is clear that by the Word of God the materials were brought into existence, and then by His hands He formed the materials into the various parts of the universe. That is, God spoke, the materials came into existence and as fast as they materialised He used them to form all things with His hands (Ps. 8:3; 2 Pet. 3:3-9. Prov. 26:10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytLiJC Posted December 31, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 357 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 65 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2017 15 hours ago, hmbld said: God is the beginning. Nothing before Him. God spoke nothing into creation! yes, God is the beginning of life how is it possible that there be something made from nothing?! God speaks to humans, it is another question whether they understand everything He tries to tell them; He spoke things into existence Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted December 31, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.12 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, ytLiJC said: yes, God is the beginning of life how is it possible that there be something made from nothing?! God speaks to humans, it is another question whether they understand everything He tries to tell them; He spoke things into existence Blessings Something cannot come form nothing....unless by the Creator. He is not subject to physical laws but the author of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytLiJC Posted December 31, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 357 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 65 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, MorningGlory said: Something cannot come form nothing....unless by the Creator. He is not subject to physical laws but the author of them. i even read from the Bible that there was a primordial substance before and after God began to create for the first time - it is written in Genesis 1 that the first two things He created were the "heaven" and the "earth", and what is written then is that there were already "darkness" and "water" in the universe, i.e. that "darkness" and that "water" were not created by Him, but they are presented as something that exists without being created - what is written in Scripture is that God used that "water", primordial substance, as a constructive/structural material to create things, including the "heaven" and the "earth" (as in 2 Peter 3:5-6) - you know God created the man after His image and likeness, and the man could create things, but usually there must be some constructive/structural material from which man can make things - so we can understand that God had also to use some constructive/structural material to create things from it, including because something cannot be made from nothing 1 John 4:17 (KJV) "as he is, so are we in this world." as we, humans, had to create/made things from some material, so He had also to create/made things from something Blessings Edited December 31, 2017 by ytLiJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.81 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 John CHAPTER 1:1-3 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4. Jn 1:1-4 Science has learned that the universe is expanding out word. This had be a scientific fact. Because of our ability to ,measure movement in the heavens. This means there had to be a point of origin. They want to call the big bang theory. However there was no big bang. John one says in the begging was the word and the word was with God. And the word was God. This means the universe was spoken into existence from nothing except Gods word. This does not equate with the human intellect. God is Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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