Reinventing The World

[missmuffet]

15 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Shhhhh.  did we hear or SEE what miss muffet just said.   Yeah I know its not popular and most mock it.  BUT .........SHE SPOT ON . 

I do not know how bad it will get before the rapture of the Church.

[JohnD]

The rapture of the Church is the end of the Church age. It will only happen after the man of lawlessness is revealed. This man will deceive all but Christians into believing he is the true messiah. The Church being the one people who will not receive his mark align themselves with death. 3.5 years later, the remnant of the Church will be so deep in hiding it will be believed they have been eradicated from the earth. Then the beast will renege on his covenant with Israel and the Jews will become the refuseniks that the Christians had been. Despised by all, the world's armies will close in on Israel. But about 105 days after the temple sacrifices are abated, the Church remnant (those few who survived to that point) will be raptured. 

The purpose for all of this?

The world is going to try to eradicate the Jews from the earth. This will drive them to the desperate measure of crying out to Jesus because nothing else has worked. And he will come and he will save them.

[Marilyn C]

54 minutes ago, JohnD said:

The rapture of the Church is the end of the Church age. It will only happen after the man of lawlessness is revealed. This man will deceive all but Christians into believing he is the true messiah. The Church being the one people who will not receive his mark align themselves with death. 3.5 years later, the remnant of the Church will be so deep in hiding it will be believed they have been eradicated from the earth. Then the beast will renege on his covenant with Israel and the Jews will become the refuseniks that the Christians had been. Despised by all, the world's armies will close in on Israel. But about 105 days after the temple sacrifices are abated, the Church remnant (those few who survived to that point) will be raptured. 

The purpose for all of this?

The world is going to try to eradicate the Jews from the earth. This will drive them to the desperate measure of crying out to Jesus because nothing else has worked. And he will come and he will save them.

Hi JohnD,

Hey bro, your scenario does not reveal the Lord Jesus Christ as the builder, nourisher and maturer of the Body of Christ, but rather a weak `lord & saviour.` Have you ever thought of it from that perspective?

`Do you not know that we shall judge angels, .....that we shall judge this world system?` (1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)

And we are certainly not going to do that in `deep hiding!`

regards, Marilyn.

[frienduff thaylorde]

14 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I do not know how bad it will get before the rapture of the Church.

My advice is only this .  be prepared to lose all and die for the Lord.    We , for generations have had our kind hated and even killed for the gospel in many places through

the years.  Expect no difference .  all who live godly in Christ shall suffer persecution.   Just be prepared to lose all for the Lord .  and remember

take the persecutions patiently , forgive any who persecutes,  rejoice when persecuted and praise the Lord when you are persecuted , rejoicing that you are counted

worthy to suffer shame for his name.  Just be not surprised , nor marvel when things get worse.   The world hated JESUS ,  its going to hate us too.

I know most western society has not had to endure the hardships others have like in korea,  or china or middle east ,

BUT its coming .   so fear not .    and let no man deceive you ,   I know isis is bad , real bad.   But the number it kills

compared to the number killed by world peace , unity , love,    will be like comparing one grain of sand, ISIS,   next to moutains and beaches of sand, INTERFAITH all inclusive answer

to worlds ills.    ISIS is like a the effect of a pebble tossed in the ocean,  but the answer that interfaith all inclusive will give, will be like the effects of  an asteroid the size

of texas hitting the ocean.   FAR WORSE will it kill in the name of peace , unity , all inclusive love.  and the world and churches are more and more seeing it as good, for they

see not this is delusion that leads the world right to the beast , the final hour ,

[frienduff thaylorde]

15 hours ago, Yowm said:

In an society where Truth is no longer relevant but only relative it eventually ends up under totalitarianism dictating that it is relevant and you are just of relative importance.

Then I guess it should be real easy to see where this all inclusive  mindset will lead the world . RIGHT to the beast .  the whole world and worse churches too

are being made ready and prepared NOT FOR CHRIST ,   but for anti Christ .    and the false gospel they preach under rome , and others should show us exactly

this,   IF the pope has made the comment preaching the gospel is like jihad

IF Kenny has made the comment about the reformation of old as being of satan

THEN KNow and understand that any who in time refuse this dung pile message so many are preaching

then in an all inclusive society ,  ANYTHING which divides will NOT BE TOLERATED.   and lets face it, SAYING JESUS is the only way excludes those who say otherwise.

any who preaches the true Christ is no minister of sin, excludes those who say otherwise.,  gay and transgender side

IF we cant see where the media , where major religions are leading the world, WE BLIND as bats .  RIGHT to the man of all sin who by PEACE will destroy many.

 

[missmuffet]

8 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

My advice is only this .  be prepared to lose all and die for the Lord.    We , for generations have had our kind hated and even killed for the gospel in many places through

the years.  Expect no difference .  all who live godly in Christ shall suffer persecution.   Just be prepared to lose all for the Lord .  and remember

take the persecutions patiently , forgive any who persecutes,  rejoice when persecuted and praise the Lord when you are persecuted , rejoicing that you are counted

worthy to suffer shame for his name.  Just be not surprised , nor marvel when things get worse.   The world hated JESUS ,  its going to hate us too.

I know most western society has not had to endure the hardships others have like in korea,  or china or middle east ,

BUT its coming .   so fear not .    and let no man deceive you ,   I know isis is bad , real bad.   But the number it kills

compared to the number killed by world peace , unity , love,    will be like comparing one grain of sand, ISIS,   next to moutains and beaches of sand, INTERFAITH all inclusive answer

to worlds ills.    ISIS is like a the effect of a pebble tossed in the ocean,  but the answer that interfaith all inclusive will give, will be like the effects of  an asteroid the size

of texas hitting the ocean.   FAR WORSE will it kill in the name of peace , unity , all inclusive love.  and the world and churches are more and more seeing it as good, for they

see not this is delusion that leads the world right to the beast , the final hour ,

I am pretribulation bro. That is what the Bible tells me. I would be prepared to go through the 7 year tribulation but that is not what scripture tells me Revelation 3:10.

[frienduff thaylorde]

9 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I am pretribulation bro. That is what the Bible tells me. I would be prepared to go through the 7 year tribulation but that is not what scripture tells me Revelation 3:10.

By all means we must not partake in thought word or deed this all inclusive mindset for world peace. 

You keep staying far away from any who even begins teaching about going down that road.   Look out for it , it will start small.

They will begin focusing on friendships with other religions and the world.  the focus will be on unity , on being accepting to different views.

The correction will not be the focus , unity will be.   YOU start seeing any kind of that funny biz in any group you fellowship with.   FLEE FAST.

warn out .     I say this also because YOU WILL SEE,  you WILL, that as more time quickly goes on, not only will they see any like this as in error

their will be ideals on how to deal with such said people like us.    Just watch for it .   They will make clever speeches

like divisions are of satan  ,  we need unity , not to be focusing on doctrine, but ON UNITY and fellowship.  WATCH FOR IT, its way closer than most see.

See, its in so many churches now , on this smaller level .  YOU SEE IT IN YOURS> YOU RUN.    RUN .

[frienduff thaylorde]

IF any sees in their churches a lets put down all divisions or barriers speech............RUN

it is the beginning .  they very clever.  IF they were honest they would just say HEY LETS FORGET what JESUS TAUGHT and the BIBLE

and just join hands and hug with all for world peace. THEY aint being quite that honest yet.

BUT IT WILL KEEP GETTING WORSE>

You hear any speeeches in your churches also about putting down barriers and walls speeches and joining in unity with other faiths . YOU RUN FAST

they sneaking how it creeps in.    IF the focus is on doing good works , coming together for common unity ,  not striving over doctrine.  RUN , RUN FAST

and they will make and use the worst examples of striving over doctrine.   they always do. 

You see any part of the Daniel plan entering your churches.............FLEE , FLEE and don't look back.   yes you can try and warn , but if they don't hear , ya flee them.

[simplejeff]

On 11/28/2017 at 12:03 AM, JohnD said:

The world is going to try to eradicate the Jews from the earth. This will drive them to the desperate measure of crying out to Jesus because nothing else has worked. And he will come and he will save them.

Not just the Jews as a nation, but all Jews and gentiles who are circumcized of heart, not by human hands, but by the Father in heaven.   The world hates all, and has been actively seeking to oppress and to destroy the faith and the lives of all believers everywhere for 2000 years.    (those who have been crying or saying or claiming "peace, peace"  ....  well...  "woe to those who are comfortable"  as Jesus Says) ....   Those (Jews AND gentiles)  who do not already cry out desperate for SALVATION in JESUS and thru HIM,   might never .....

[simplejeff]

On 11/27/2017 at 10:29 PM, frienduff thaylorde said:

Shhhhh.  did we hear or SEE what ... xxx ...  just said.   Yeah I know its not popular and most mock it.  But .........she spot on . 

Sorry, no.   Not a reliable testimony(see other recent posts) what she posts...  - but it is very difficult to get to the root on this forum , and would take some time and also willingness to reveal the beginning thru the middle, as well as the end, of why some beliefs and some of those in serious error.  (same for many visitors/posters/lurkers) ....   There is not a sufficient standard nor a suitable environment to get through to the root of errors here.