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2 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

So you believe in the Yo-Yo rapture? Meet Him in the clouds only to do a 180 degree turn and then for another rapture of everything that offends to occur? Mat 13:41

That's just nonsense. 

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4 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

If a fact. There is a gathering of all that offends when He returns. Did you even read the verse? Of course not per your response.

Yo-yo rapture is nonsense. 

 


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17 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

So you believe in the Yo-Yo rapture? Meet Him in the clouds only to do a 180 degree turn and then for another rapture of everything that offends to occur? Mat 13:41

Sounds more like what you believe . . . Jesus leaves heaven to the clouds, rapture, then yo-yo back up to heaven.  Reconcile that with Acts 1:11.


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1 hour ago, Diaste said:

You will see. No early exit. Prepare for that reality. 

Many of us will be here to help when that day comes. 

And hopefully they will have the wherewithal to even realize that their pretrib eschatology has failed them.


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24 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

If a fact. There is a gathering of all that offends when He returns. Did you even read the verse? Of course not per your response.

No idea what your point is concerning Matt 13:41


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4 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

1 Thessalonians 4:18
Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

Oh, but according to men, prepare for the living daylights to be knocked out of you before we get married and have the supper all bloodied up. Your words bring zero comfort but fear mongering and foolishness if you think you can survive the tribulation.

I'll stick to God's word, thank you.

I wish you would. With my whole heart I wish you would.


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2 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

2 Peter 2:4-9
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed [his] righteous soul from day to day with [their] unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished.

 

God PULLED Noah and Lot OUT. The great departure, then the revelation of the man of perdition. As in the days of Noah and Lot. Stick to the word of God.

Yes. But you are equating the entire 70th week with Gods wrath sans scriptural justification. 

Then the pretrib thing works and can provide internal consistency. Still based on a false premise.


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2 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

Obviously not. Meditate on it. It'll come to you.

I'm not playing guessing games.

Present the argument.


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3 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

Noah: 8 out of an estimated 10 billion saved.

Lot: 3 out of thousands saved.

God's way is to pull out the righteous. 

Before wrath. Tribulation is not wrath. 


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15 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

And hopefully they will have the wherewithal to even realize that their pretrib eschatology has failed them.

I hope so too.

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