something i got from a book i read

[other one]

8 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

STRONG DRINK IS NOT FOR...................

sum up the whole of the context of what is said.  you brought the latter part .  the whole message is strong drink aint for US , its for those who perish.

and wine to forget your troubles.

[other one]

8 hours ago, missmuffet said:

This passage has nothing to do with allowing people to drink alcohol. It has to do with giving people alcohol who were perishing to shorten their suffering, especially terminal people. Just like today a medical professional may give a suffering person some morphine to ease their suffering.

and wine to forget your troubles....

[TheMatrixHasU71]

18 hours ago, Jaydog1976 said:

I drink alcohol from time to time but I sure as don't have any desire to get drunk. But I don't mind have a beer with a friend or whatever. It is all about controlling yourself and saying no. Same with the bottom picture. Temptation does come and it will always present itself but one has a choice whether to act on that temptation or simply ignore it and move on knowing it was a temptation. 

The picture almost makes it look like if you have one drink you become a drunkard or if you have that temptation of a inappropriate act that you will automatically indulge in it. 

Both these situation actually take time to develop and those that end up at the end of each picture chose to fall into the temptation of getting drunk or committing adultery. 

Even Jesus drank wine and though there are plenty of injunctions in the bible against getting drunk, there is nothing whatsoever preventing anyone from drinking alcohol at all, save for the Nazirites.

[Neighbor]

9 hours ago, other one said:

and wine to forget your troubles....

Well other one, I don't know, seems O T references to hard stuff was to dull pain of life and pending hurts and death, but that wine was to put on a happy face, as in have a good time at a wedding.  Never did anything for me.

Wine makes me sick. I can't even handle the aromas. I just don't like  beers malts, or grain alcohols at all anymore. Used to take one shot of Walker's Deluxe 12 year old bourbon mostly for pain after a long triple shift of hard work, but that was decades and decades ago. For awhile, in the hotel, restaurant/entertainment/ lounge business I had to run  the entertainment lounge ( absolutely hatred it). I drank straight tonic water only, while schmoozing with the commercial clientele.

 I guess many if not most people enjoy a wine or a hard alcohol drink, do so without much consequence. It is just not for me, anymore, hasn't been for perhaps forty years now. My "toasts" are made with distilled water. It's a simple life that I lead, out of touch with the world,enjoying what my Lord leads me to via the Holy Spirit, and that is quite okay with me.

As for anyone else, hey "Cheers" to you all. Whatever you are toasting with, may God bless you Merry Christmas one and all.

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Well other one, I don't know, seems O T references to hard stuff was to dull pain of life and pending hurts and death, but that wine was to put on a happy face, as in have a good time at a wedding.  Never did anything for me.

Wine makes me sick. I can't even handle the aromas. I just don't like  beers malts, or grain alcohols at all anymore. Used to take one shot of Walker's Deluxe 12 year old bourbon mostly for pain after a long triple shift of hard work, but that was decades and decades ago. For awhile, in the hotel, restaurant/entertainment/ lounge business I had to run  the entertainment lounge ( absolutely hatred it). I drank straight tonic water only, while schmoozing with the commercial clientelle.

 I guess many if not most people enjoy a wine or a hard alcohol drink, do so without much consequence. It is just not for me, anymore, hasn't been for perhaps forty years now. My "toasts" are made with distilled water. It's a simple life that I lead, out of touch with the world,enjoying what my Lord leads me to via the Holy Spirit, and that is quite okay with me.

As for anyone else, hey "Cheers" to you all. Whatever you are toasting with, may God bless you Merry Christmas one and all.

Wine does make some people sick. Especially red wine. Some wines have sulfites in them and can make a person really sick. That was the case with me. Also red wine is a trigger for migraine headaches.

[Neighbor]

25 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Wine does make some people sick. Especially red wine. Some wines have sulfites in them and can make a person really sick. That was the case with me. Also red wine is a trigger for migraine headaches.

Yep, any wine will make me whine for sure!

[frienduff thaylorde]

9 hours ago, other one said:

and wine to forget your troubles.

I drink a very small glass of red wine for health reasons.    IF ya drinking to forget that IS CALLED DRUNKENESS.   SIN.

a small glass is not .    However not all have that in them. SOME wont drink a dot.    THUS I don't drink a dot around them, NOR argue with them either.

IF any has a problem with me drinking even a small glass from time to time .   I have no problems with them telling me not too.  

TO me is simply about the JOY of the LORD , righteousness , the holy spirit.    If any thinks I should not do this,   I welcome with joy your response.

Cause meats , days , drinks , I Don't fuss over.  BUT SIN yeah,  big difference. and DRUNKENESS IS SIN.   so is the concept

of the one glass, then okay maybe two , then okay maybe three and the tolerance just builds up .   WE do have to be very careful.

But since in all honesty I cant stand the taste of red wine.   I am happy for other offers of something I could drink in place of that .