HAZARD Posted January 2, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Mystic_Pizza said: Thank you, simplejeff -- I will definitely check it out- between you and Justin, there's definitely some things to look into- I guess it never even occurred to me to check into the fact that the Catholic Church truly is ancient, and probably has a lot of....questionable thoughts and ideas..I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box today, lol~ According to many Bible scholars and historians the great whore is identified as a great religious system, the Roman Catholic Church, which they claim will fulfil Rev. 17 and dominate the Antichrist for a short time during his rise over the ten kings and until the middle of the Week. Then the beast and the ten kings will destroy her (Rev. 17:9-17). Even catholic divines admit Rev. 17 is a description of their church. (See the writings of Cardinal Ballarmine and the French Prelate. Boussuet.) She has a name on her forehead, MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT. "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS" Rev. 17:5. This name is certainly appropriate to Romanism. Hundreds of different branches of Christendom have been formed since the reformation. The word HARLOTS no doubt refers to these branches which will become more apostate as the age ends and will finally become united with Rome again to fulfil this revelation of things after the churches. Many churches are looking to Rome even now. THE MOTHER OF ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev. 17:5. This is very appropriate of Romanism. The many abominations started and practices by the ancient Babylonian cult and her present successor go far to identify this woman as a symbol of Romanism. THE GREAT WHORE. Rev. 17: 1-2. She is called this because of her illicit intercourse with the kings of the Earth in religious practices and superstitions, and which give her influence over the nations of the ten kings. And there are many more examples!!!!! Even the attire worn by her clergy. Rev. 17:4. Scarlet is the color of Romanism, being reserved for the Pope and his cardinals. This religious denomination is the richest on Earth as pictured in this verse. The drunkenness of this whore proves her to be Romanism. Rev. 17:6-7. This finger of accusation is no mere accident. While it refers to the martyrdom of saints "after the churches," by Romanism, still is it not common knowledge that this same persecution has gone on in past ages? It has been estimated that more than 200,000,000, people have been slain by Romanism in the past. These terrible days of persecution will come again, at least after the rapture of the church, and before Christ comes to the earth (Rev. 6: 9-11; 7:9-17. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted January 3, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2018 How it all began. The city Babylon was built by Nimrod, the mighty hunter (Gen. 10:8-10). It was the seat of the first great apostasy against God after the flood. Here the Babylonian Cult was invented by Nimrod and his Queen, Semiramis. It was a system claiming the highest wisdom and ability to reveal the most divine secrets. This cult was characterized by the word "Mystery" because of its mysteries. Beside confessing to the priests at admission to this cult, one was compelled to drink of "mysterious beverages," which says Salvert (Des Sciences Occultes, Page 259) was indespensible on the part of those who saught initation into these mysteries. The "mysterious beverages' were composed of wine, honey, water, and flour. They were always of an intoxicating nature, and untill the aspirants had come under the influence of it and had their understanding dimmed they were not prepared for what they were to see and hear. The method was to introduce privately, little by little, information under seal of secrecy and sanction of oath that would be impossible to reveal otherwise. This has been the policy of the Roman Church and the secret of the power of the priests over the lives of men whom they could expose to the world for their sins that have been confessed to them. Once admitted, men were no longer Babylonians, Assyrians, or Egyptians, but were members of a mystical brotherhood, over whom was placed a Supreme Pontif or High Priest whos word was final in all things in thelives of the brotherhood regardless of the country in which they lived. The ostensible objects of worship were the Supreme Father, the Incarnate Female or Queen of Heaven, and her Son. The last two were only objects of worship, as the Supreme Father was said not to interfere with mortal affaires (Nimrod 111, Page 239). This system is believed to have come from fallen angels and demons. The object of the cult was to rule the world by these dogmas. Much more can be said but to simplify things, Damasus, Bishop of the Christian Church at Rome, was elected to the office of Supreme Pontif. He had been bishop for twelve years, having been made suchin 366 A. D. through influence of the monks of Mount Carmel, a college of the Babylonian religion originally founded by the priests of Jezebel and continued to this day in connection with Rome. So, in 378 A. D., the babylonian system of religion became part of Christendom, for the bishop of Rome, who later became the supreme head of the organized church, was already Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. All the teachings of pagan Babylon and Rome were gradually interspersed into the Christian religious organization. Soon after Damasus was made Supreme Pontiff, the rites of Babylon began to come to the front. The worship of the Roman Church became babylonish, and under him, the heathen temples were restored and beautified and the rituals established. Thus, the currupt religious system under the figure of a woman with a golden cup in her hand, making all nations drunk with her fornication, is called by God "MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT." The first practice that grew up after this union was the introduction of the worship of the saints, especially of the virgin Mary. Thousands of pagans entered the church in those days who were accustomed to worshiping the gods of towns and places, who were not thoroughly Christianized. The veneration of saints and holy men became a worship. Saints were considered lesser dieties, whos intercession availed with God. Places connected with the lives of holy men were considered sacred and pilgrimages were started. Relics or bones of saints were believed to have miraculous power. The worship of the virgin Mary was set up in 381 A. D., three years after Damasus became bead of the Babylonian Cult. Just as the Babylonian cult worshiped the "Queen of Heaven and her Son" and did not worship the Supreme Father because he simply did not interfere with mortal affairs, so the Roman Chrurch has a similar worship in that they worship Mary as the mother of God and her Son. The image of mother and child was an object of worship in Babylon long before Christ was born. From Babylon it spread to the ends of the Earth. The original mother was Semiramis, the beautiful queen of Nimrod, who was a paragon of unbridled lust and licentiousness. In the "mysteries," which she had the chief part in forming, she was worshiped as Rhea (Chronicon Paschal, Volume 1, Page 65), the great "Mother of the God's" with such atrocious rites as identified her with Venus, the mother of all impurity. She raised Babylon, where she reigned to eminence among the nations as the great seat idolatry and consecrated prostetution (Hesiod, Theogonia, Volume 36, Page 435). The apocalyptic emblem of the harlot with cup in hand was one of idolatry derived from ancient Babylon, as they were exhibited in Greece, for thus the Greek Venus was originally represented (Herodotus, Historia, Book 1, cap. 199, Page 92). Ironicilly the Roman Church has taken this as her emblem. In 1825 a medal was struck bearing the image of Pope Leo X11 on one side and on the other side Rome symbolized by a woman with a cross in her left hand and a cup in her right hand and a legend around her "Sedet Super Universum"; that is, "The whole world is her seat." From this original practice, practically all nations have copied a similar worship, but in each land the same figure is carried out under different names. In Egypt the mother and child are known as Isis and Osiris; in India, Isi and Iswara; in Eastern Asia, Cybel and Deoius; in pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiter-puer; In Greece, Ceres or as Irene with Plutus in arms, etc. In Thibet, China, and Japan the Jesuits were suprised to find the counterpart of the madonna (the Italian name for virgin) and her child as devoutly worshiped as in Rome itself. Shing Moo, the mother of China, is there represented with child in her arms and a glory around her exactly as if a Roman artist had paintd her. Where did these nations get this common worship if not from Babylon before the dispersion by God in the days of Nimrod (Gen. 11). Thus the worship of Mary in connection with her Son is of Babylonian origin for there is no mention of such worshiping Scripture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 4, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 1:59 PM, Mystic_Pizza said: and probably has a lot of....questionable thoughts and ideas. Remember as all are being summed up on earth in the beast/ babylon system, NONE of the thoughts nor ideas are true nor worth checking even. (it is all , the whole system as a system, opposed to Jesus and His saints) . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 5, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 9:01 AM, Mystic_Pizza said: I have a strange question to ask, and I've wondered about this for years- hopefully, someone has some insight..? In the past I've read and seen things online (movies, documentaries, etc.) about various...'hauntings', etc.- the Smurls come to mind, the Amityville business (if that one is true, have no idea on any of them, really), and a smattering of others over the years- and there seems to be one common thread running through it that I've noticed: the people it happens to, seem to almost always be Catholic. Unless I'm mistaken, but I have to say that's the one thing I look for whenever I hear or read about things like this- I've tried 'googling' it 20 ways to Tuesday, and nothing comes up about it, I mean literally nothing, nada, zilch- and I'm having trouble trying to figure out just what the connection is, here, and there does somehow seem to be some sort of a connection...does being Catholic (which I'm not) somewhat 'target' people for things like that, on occasion? Although I have NO problem with people who are Catholic, for me there was just too much 'pageantry', rote recitation, involvement with saints,etc. involved, and it always gave me an uncomfortable feeling- this does NOT mean I don't believe Catholics are not 'saved', I think the Lord looks deep into each heart for the truth about what it is that they are all about where He is concerned...and I don't believe being 'Catholic', 'Protestant', 'Lutheran', etc. has a thing in the world to do with any of it..but again, that's just me. So! Anybody have a clue, here? lol~ It all depends on where their heart is. Are they a born again true Christian? Do they have a daily relationship with God? If not they will get side tracked into this world and that is not a good thing. A "religion" really has nothing to do with it. I do not give a particular religion very much value as I do a daily relationship with God. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 4:25 PM, missmuffet said: It all depends on where their heart is. Are they a born again true Christian? Do they have a daily relationship with God? If not they will get side tracked into this world and that is not a good thing. A "religion" really has nothing to do with it. I do not give a particular religion very much value as I do a daily relationship with God. Specially when that so called religion teaches all sorts of things CONTRARY TO WHAT JESUS HIMSELF said to do or not to do. and I never seen JESUS once say................bow down to any graven images I never once heard JESUS say , worship praying to MY MOTHER and I never once heard JESUS say............hey if they don't receive me , its all good, hey all religions are valid , lets heal the wounds of division and hug for world peace and kiss korans and buddas. YEAH , FLEE THAT CHURCH and sadly most others cause many things get taught contrary to what JESUS said . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 2:37 PM, simplejeff said: Remember as all are being summed up on earth in the beast/ babylon system, NONE of the thoughts nor ideas are true nor worth checking even. (it is all , the whole system as a system, opposed to Jesus and His saints) . Here is some more encouragement . FLEE THEM CHURCHES PEOPLE. come out of that system , the all inclusive is infecting many now it has went from dark to gross dark in many now. ITS TIME TO STAND FOR THE TRUE FAITH ONCE DELIEVERED unto the saints. IN THIS WORLD , specially has hateful as it has become to any type of correction..............KNOW and understand you will be hated . and its gong to only get worse fast . YES the time comes when even in western socities and the whole world, you will be rounded up as haters as mental, as dangerous and many who have you killed will think they do gods service , cause they been duped into thinking ITS GODS WILL FOR WORLD PEACE and UNITY . GET OUT NOW . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2018 From Worthy Christian LIbrary examples of true believers, born again, experiencing God's Life: (and the enemy, killing them) >>> Worthy Christian Library » Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe Table of Contents Chapter 1 – History of Christian Martyrs to the First General Persecutions under Nero Chapter 2, Part 1 – The Ten Primitive Persecutions Chapter 2, Part 2 – The Tenth Persecution, Under Diocletian, A.D. 303 Chapter 3 – Persecutions of the Christians in Persia Chapter 4 – Papal Persecutions Chapter 6, Part 2 – An Account of the Persecutions in the Valleys of Piedmont, in the Seventeenth Century Chapter 7 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of John Wickliffe Chapter 8 – An Account of the Persecutions in Bohemia Under the Papacy Chapter 9 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of Martin Luther Chapter 10 – General Persecutions in Germany Chapter 11 – An Account of the Persecutions in the Netherlands Chapter 12 – The Life and Story of the True Servant and Martyr of God, William Tyndale Chapter 14 – An Account of the Persecutions in Great Britain and Ireland, Prior to the Reign of Queen Mary I Chapter 16, Part 1 – Persecutions in England During the Reign of Queen Mary Chapter 16, Part 3 – The Vision of Three Ladders Chapter 16, Part 5 – God’s Punishment upon Some of the Persecutors of His People in Mary’s Reign Chapter 17 – Rise and Progress of the Protestant Religion in Ireland; with an Account of the Barbarous Massacre of 1641 Chapter 18 – The Rise, Progress, Persecutions, and Sufferings of the Quakers Chapter 19 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of John Bunyan Chapter 20 – An Account of the Life of John Wesley Chapter 21, Part 1 – Persecutions of the French Protestants in the South of France, During the Years 1814 and 1820 Chapter 21, Part 2 – The History of the Silver Child Chapter 21, Part 3 – The Catholic Arms at Beaucaire Chapter 21, Part 7 – Monstrous Outrage Upon Females Chapter 21, Part 11 – Interference of the British Government Chapter 22, Part 2 – The Persecution of Doctor Judson Chapter 22, Part 3 – Removal of the Prisoners to Oung-pen-la — Mrs. Judson Follows Them Worthy Christian Library » Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, simplejeff said: From Worthy Christian LIbrary examples of true believers, born again, experiencing God's Life: (and the enemy, killing them) >>> Worthy Christian Library » Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe Table of Contents Chapter 1 – History of Christian Martyrs to the First General Persecutions under Nero Chapter 2, Part 1 – The Ten Primitive Persecutions Chapter 2, Part 2 – The Tenth Persecution, Under Diocletian, A.D. 303 Chapter 3 – Persecutions of the Christians in Persia Chapter 4 – Papal Persecutions Chapter 6, Part 2 – An Account of the Persecutions in the Valleys of Piedmont, in the Seventeenth Century Chapter 7 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of John Wickliffe Chapter 8 – An Account of the Persecutions in Bohemia Under the Papacy Chapter 9 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of Martin Luther Chapter 10 – General Persecutions in Germany Chapter 11 – An Account of the Persecutions in the Netherlands Chapter 12 – The Life and Story of the True Servant and Martyr of God, William Tyndale Chapter 14 – An Account of the Persecutions in Great Britain and Ireland, Prior to the Reign of Queen Mary I Chapter 16, Part 1 – Persecutions in England During the Reign of Queen Mary Chapter 16, Part 3 – The Vision of Three Ladders Chapter 16, Part 5 – God’s Punishment upon Some of the Persecutors of His People in Mary’s Reign Chapter 17 – Rise and Progress of the Protestant Religion in Ireland; with an Account of the Barbarous Massacre of 1641 Chapter 18 – The Rise, Progress, Persecutions, and Sufferings of the Quakers Chapter 19 – An Account of the Life and Persecutions of John Bunyan Chapter 20 – An Account of the Life of John Wesley Chapter 21, Part 1 – Persecutions of the French Protestants in the South of France, During the Years 1814 and 1820 Chapter 21, Part 2 – The History of the Silver Child Chapter 21, Part 3 – The Catholic Arms at Beaucaire Chapter 21, Part 7 – Monstrous Outrage Upon Females Chapter 21, Part 11 – Interference of the British Government Chapter 22, Part 2 – The Persecution of Doctor Judson Chapter 22, Part 3 – Removal of the Prisoners to Oung-pen-la — Mrs. Judson Follows Them Worthy Christian Library » Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe AND SOON WE SHALL JOIN THE RANKS OF OUR BRETHREN. PREPARE TO BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS The time of so called relative peace in western socities towards Christians IS OVER. Yall want to hear something said. for the first several hundred years of true christanity , christains were persecuted by nations and men. Which is not the sad part . the sad part is ...................once ROME GOT HER BIRTH from that time of most pesecuions came from a so called Christian church. YEAH let that one sink in the next time one tries and tells ya ROME is the ONLY ONE TRUE CHURCH. and worse.............she is up to it again. DO you know why christains were persecuted in ROME , before the ROMAN CHURH was born. ROME had no problmes with many gods.....................THE PROBLEM was that CHRISTAINS SAID NO , they false , ONLY JESUS IS TRUE. SO what did the church do.................under Constantine she led it all sorts of all inclusive pagan ideals and sure its true the persecuoin against her ceased. BUT SO DID HER SALVATION . and look know..............she is doing it YET AGAIN and worse many chuches are falling for her ruse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 6, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: Specially when that so called religion teaches all sorts of things CONTRARY TO WHAT JESUS HIMSELF said to do or not to do. and I never seen JESUS once say................bow down to any graven images I never once heard JESUS say , worship praying to MY MOTHER and I never once heard JESUS say............hey if they don't receive me , its all good, hey all religions are valid , lets heal the wounds of division and hug for world peace and kiss korans and buddas. YEAH , FLEE THAT CHURCH and sadly most others cause many things get taught contrary to what JESUS said . The sad thing is they think she is the queen of heaven. Quite the contrary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggles Posted January 9, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,790 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 983 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Mary and Child or Madonna and Child Edited January 9, 2018 by Waggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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