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45 minutes ago, ScottA said:

The greatest tribulation is all the sins of the world, past, present, and future, being placed upon Christ. The point is, you and the greater church complex have the timing of the most important part of understanding the end times...wrong.

If you properly attribute the time of great tribulation to the time of Christ...it all comes out differently (correctly). Things that you have pushed off as not possibly being fulfilled yet, have indeed been fulfilled. Adjust the timing of the main event...and have another look.

I'm sorry, but no.

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Promoting & projecting your own special spiritual  power and presence above that of others in the face of danger is well founded in scripture .                                                               

                                                                     " Although all shall be offended , yet will not I "       ( Mark 14 : 29 )

A rare form of leaven only a very select few are full of .


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5 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The problem is that those who think the Church will go through the tribulation think that the Christians will not be harmed and that is not the case. They would suffer just as much as anyone else. God is going to keep the born again Christian from that wrath and Judgement of the tribulation. That is why there will be a rapture. Revelation 3:10

The problem is that those who think the Church will go through the tribulation think that the Christians will not be harmed and that is not the case

SIS many of us will die.    I aint one of those thinking we wont be harmed.     Prepare thy mind to lose all for JESUS ,to die for Him .    And rejoice when persecuted amen.

Sing with me sister.  THEIR JUST AINT NO FEAR OF DEATH.   Whether I live or die  I am the Lords.   When my time is up its up , no fear .   You loved sister.

You loved like three day starved calf loves that first sip of milk.    Be blessed sister.    and praise the Lord.   


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Never have I seen a larger collection  of soft Americans who have no knowledge of the world outside their pampered isolated existence that believe the suffering of all the world's Christians is on par to their own  suffering , which is really no suffering at all . 

Colossally self absorbed they are  .

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2 minutes ago, Unfailing Presence said:

Never have I seen a larger collection  of soft Americans who have no knowledge of the world outside their pampered isolated existence that believe the suffering of all the world's Christians is on par to their own  suffering , which is really no suffering at all . 

Colossally self absorbed they are  .

Well under the all inclusive dung pile , that will soon change.    We really will face persecution and even death.

on that note shun that sorry all inclusive interfaith out of sight .     If you have not already.     Over here n America .  We aint even began to see persecution.

a few have began on a lighter scale like losing jobs etc.   But soon it will be real hard core persecutions the likes of which we aint seen here .  but soon will.

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7 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:
12 minutes ago, Unfailing Presence said:

Never have I seen a larger collection  of soft Americans who have no knowledge of the world outside their pampered isolated existence that believe the suffering of all the world's Christians is on par to their own  suffering , which is really no suffering at all . 

Colossally self absorbed they are  .

Well under the all inclusive dung pile , that will soon change.    We really will face persecution and even death

Wow some people will really suffer DEATH ?  

That's never happened .

At least in the soft headed minds of pampered , fat and sassy Americans with no knowledge of the world outside their little self absorbed existence .


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10 minutes ago, Unfailing Presence said:

Wow some people will really suffer DEATH ?  

That's never happened .

At least in the soft headed minds of pampered , fat and sassy Americans with no knowledge of the world outside their little self absorbed existence .

Some yes. Many are not this way. Maybe some are not as vocal, giving you a false impression. 


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2 hours ago, LightShinesInTheDarkness said:

I'm sorry, but no.

If you are truly sorry, what do you consider to be a greater tribulation that you would put Christ's suffering on the cross in second place?


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7 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The problem is that those who think the Church will go through the tribulation think that the Christians will not be harmed and that is not the case. They would suffer just as much as anyone else. God is going to keep the born again Christian from that wrath and Judgement of the tribulation. That is why there will be a rapture. Revelation 3:10

Pardon my correction here. Great tribulation is the time saints will suffer persecution by the antichrist 3 1/2 yrs but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened Math 24:15

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)24:15

1 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Mt 24:21-23

Tribulations have been with the church since it began and will be until the abomination of desolation 3 1/2 yrs after the 7 yr peace accord Daniel 9:27. Then comes great tribulation. Revelation 15 then shows the True bride in heaven standing on a sea of glass after suffering the antichrist which right after comes Gods wrath poured out. This is what Rev 3: 10 is saying. The hour of temptation that shall come apon the earth to try the ungodly.

 

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On 1/25/2018 at 10:17 PM, Mike Mclees said:

Pardon my correction here. Great tribulation is the time saints will suffer persecution by the antichrist 3 1/2 yrs but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened Math 24:15

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)24:15

1 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Mt 24:21-23

Tribulations have been with the church since it began and will be until the abomination of desolation 3 1/2 yrs after the 7 yr peace accord Daniel 9:27. Then comes great tribulation. Revelation 15 then shows the True bride in heaven standing on a sea of glass after suffering the antichrist which right after comes Gods wrath poured out. This is what Rev 3: 10 is saying. The hour of temptation that shall come apon the earth to try the ungodly.

 

God already shortened the days of the Tribulation, from 7 years to approximately 3 1/2.

The Great Tribulation will be a time of persecution and testing of the faith of the saints unique from the ordinary persecution of Christians around the world, not merely a continuation of regular persecution. The antichrist's objective toward the saints during this time will be to get as many Christians to take the mark as possible (conquer them), thus forfeiting their salvation. The "next best thing" will be to rid the earth of them (of those who do not take the mark), and many will be martyred.

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