simplejeff Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 Question: "Is there a heavenly mother?" Answer: The Bible does not teach the existence of a “heavenly mother.” God is the “heavenly Father” (Luke 11:2). The church is pictured as a bride, loved by Christ (Ephesians 5:25-33). The concept of a “heavenly mother” who is the “true” bride of Christ is taught by the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG or WMSCG), a Korean cult founded by Ahn Sahng-Hong in 1964. The WMSCOG believes that Ahn Sahng-Hong was the second coming of Christ. When he died in 1985, his “spiritual wife,” Zahng Gil-Jah, took over, calling herself the “heavenly mother” and citing verses such as Revelation 21:9-10; 22:17; and Galatians 4:26. Revelation 21:2 describes the New Jerusalem as a beautifully adorned bride. Verses 9-10 show that the “wife of the Lamb” and the New Jerusalem are synonymous terms. Obviously, the New Jerusalem is a city, not a person. A city is a group of people, not an individual; in this case, the city is the church, the redeemed of the Lord living in God’s heavenly city. The Lamb’s “wife,” then, is figurative, not literal. https://www.gotquestions.org/heavenly-mother.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 "Paul uses the story of Abraham and his two sons to illustrate his point. Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman (Hagar) and one by a free woman (Sarah). As we read on in Galatians 4, Paul tells us that what he is about to say should be taken figuratively (aka metaphorically, allegorically, NOT literally). These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. Galatians 4:24-26 When interpreting the above verses figuratively as Paul intended (and flat out says), the following becomes clear: Hagar represents the present city Jerusalem, the old covenant, and therefore her children are slaves Sarah represents the heavenly city Jerusalem, the new covenant, and therefore her children are free Therefore, in Galatians 4:26, it is clear that when Paul says that the “new Jerusalem is our mother” he is referring to the heavenly country Jerusalem as our motherland. In order to illustrate this more clearly, here are some additional Biblical examples of the word “mother” being used to refer to a country. ///// ......... " https://www.examiningthewmscog.com/archives/mother-in-the-bible-country-or-korean-lady-galatians-426/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Sister said: Thanks Jayne and everyone else. This is an important question. Our mother is mentioned often. Hint hint, she is not Mary, nor is she carnal. Think. Search deep. Who represents our mother? I could make a case for Wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted February 20, 2018 11 hours ago, simplejeff said: HalleluYAH! Let the Father be Praised for His Mercy and Comfort and Nourishment Care and Protection of all His children everywhere , every day, on earth and in heaven for eternity ! Jeff. they doing this mother divine theology just like the jehovas and Mormons. they street preaching it . a brother of mine ran into a oriental couple , just yesterday preaching this divine mother goddess in christain form. the feminine spirit , I think is what he said they called it . The only mother we have is mother Jerusalem which is above . Be blessed jeff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heleadethme Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,371 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 3,268 Days Won: 5 Joined: 07/10/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Jayne said: While God calls himself "Father", he also speaks of his own self several times in motherly terms. My favorite is Jesus describing himself as a mother hen wishing to take Jerusalem under his wings. We don't call God "Mother", but reading these scriptures help us understand that God is all things. I've deleted the link and will just post the scriptures. Genesis 1:27 Women and Men created in God’s image “Humankind was created as God’s reflection: in the divine image God created them; female and male, God made them.” Hosea 11:3-4 God described as a mother God: “Yet it was I who taught Ephraim to walk, I who took them up in my arms; but they did not know that I healed them. I led them with cords of human kindness, with bands of love. I was to them like those who lift infants to their cheeks. I bent down to them and fed them.” Hosea 13:8 God described as a mother bear “Like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will attack them and tear them asunder…” Deuteronomy 32:11-12 God described as a mother eagle “Like the eagle that stirs up its nest, and hovers over its young, God spreads wings to catch you, and carries you on pinions.” Deuteronomy 32:18 God who gives birth “You were unmindful of the Rock that bore you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.” Isaiah 66:13 God as a comforting mother God: “As a mother comforts her child, so I will comfort you; you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.” Isaiah 49:15 God compared to a nursing mother God: “Can a woman forget her nursing child, or show no compassion for the child of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you.” Isaiah 42:14 God as a woman in labor God: “For a long time I have held my peace, I have kept myself still and restrained myself; now I will cry out like a woman in labor, I will gasp and pant.” Psalm 131:2 God as a Mother “But I have calmed and quieted my soul, like a weaned child with its mother; my soul is like the weaned child that is with me.” Psalm 123:2-3 God compared to a woman “As the eyes of a servant looks to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to you, YHWH, until you show us your mercy!” Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34 God as a Mother Hen Jesus: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often have I desired to gather your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing!” Luke 15:8-10 God as woman looking for her lost coin Jesus: “Or what woman having ten silver coins, is she loses one of them, does not light a lamp, sweep the house, and search carefully until she finds it? When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin that I had lost.’ Just so, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” Amen......the Lord our God is complete in Himself....male and female created He them, in His image created He THEM. And even Eve was within Adam, so to speak, she came from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: Jeff. they doing this mother divine theology just like the jehovas and Mormons. they street preaching it . a brother of mine ran into a oriental couple , just yesterday preaching this divine mother goddess in christain form. the feminine spirit , I think is what he said they called it . The only mother we have is mother Jerusalem which is above . Be blessed jeff. Yes, and even that is allegory (Jerusalem) . The babylon thought, idea/ concept of 'mother' , has infiltrated most of Christendom and most all society and most all other religions , so the truth is hard to find and realize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4LdKHVCzRDj2 Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,453 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 1,453 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/02/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1991 Share Posted February 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Heleadethme said: Amen......the Lord our God is complete in Himself So beautiful, so beautiful... Reminds of this: "Can a woman forget her nursing child, And not have compassion on the son of her womb? Surely they may forget, Yet I will not forget you." - Isaiah 49:15 Glory to God! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Last Daze said: I could make a case for Wisdom. You could , easily, yes, but in the context of most of all society's thoughts of 'mother'/divinity as used by most of the world's people, it would not be good to do here, I think. The whole sphere of influence of babylon, for over 2000 years, has corrupted society, or is together side by side in all society, so Godly Clarity and Understanding does not make much ado about such things - the emphasis in society is wicked, directing people away from truth, instead of in Christ Jesus. What society as a whole and in parts things and believes is not in line with Scripture nor with what is right and true nor with YHVH (God) . So much warning is needed, and deliverence maybe from idolatry and pagan worship influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted February 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, Heleadethme said: Amen......the Lord our God is complete in Himself....male and female created He them, in His image created He THEM. And even Eve was within Adam, so to speak, she came from him. We don't call God "Mother", but reading these scriptures help us understand that God is all things I have to say Jayne needs to reword that . God IS not ALL things, but rather created ALL THINGS. I don't know how she meant that . but I just did not like the way that was worded. Be blessed and praise the Lord. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted February 20, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, simplejeff said: The whole sphere of influence of babylon, for over 2000 years, has corrupted society, or is together side by side in all society, For well over 2000 years. Closer to 6000. Within Babylon is found the blood of Abel. And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth. Revelation 18:24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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