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The Measuring of the Temple

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On 3/22/2018 at 12:05 AM, ghtan said:

How do you interpret 11:2?

  • Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2  Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months."  Revelation 11:1-2

The forty-two months is the time that the false prophet wages war against the saints per Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5.

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KJV

11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months

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12 hours ago, Last Daze said:
  • Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2  Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months."  Revelation 11:1-2

The forty-two months is the time that the false prophet wages war against the saints per Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5.

How would equating the temple in verse 1 with the temple in heaven conflict with that interpretation of verse 2?

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9 hours ago, ghtan said:

How would equating the temple in verse 1 with the temple in heaven conflict with that interpretation of verse 2?

The ungodly waging war against the saints for 42 months happens on earth.

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Last Daze

Are you seeing what I am seeing?

 

Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

If "the court" is going to be trampled on by the gentiles - only the court, and  Daniel says this;

Daniel 7:21   I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

 

Daniel 7:25   And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

 

....then, does it not make sense that those who are at the altar will not be trampled on by the gentiles? 

The pre-tribbers are going to love this......

but......

There are only 144K, sealed which are the "firstfruits".  A tiny minority, who follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes.  And what does this mean, to follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes?....they say it must mean you are a born bred Jew or full blooded Israelite, totally disregarding these scriptures they should already know;

Galatians 3:28   There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 Romans 2:11   For there is no respect of persons with God.

Colossians 3:25   But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

 

It appears when we put all the scriptures together that the 144K sealed ones, are the ones standing at the altar, .....to me, it's plain as day, and when the temple of God is measured - not by length or width, and not talking about a physical building, but measured by those truly serving the Lord at the highest level, then it only makes sense that these will not be trampled by the gentiles (the beast) when the time comes, for God has something good in store for them,...the 144K.   Only the court - which is also obvious to me, that the court is not the world, but is still within the temples boundaries, and it's not measured, because why?......because there are too many that are not serving in spirit and in truth, and therefore will go through a fiery trial to be purified and made white.

So unless one is of the 144K, he cannot boast that he will be taken and spared from the great tribulation that is coming upon us, and quite frankly, no one knows who the 144K is, because Christ will choose and not men.

 

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The question is. When does Israel become one with Christ Jesus. Also where do the two witnesses make their stand. Scripture says the 144,000 are sealed, but it does not state when they follow the Lamb. I say during the Mill. Not the 70th Week.

In Christ

Montana Marv

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"no one knows who the 144K is, because Christ will choose and not men"

 

The 144000 are protected mortals of Israel just as the scriptures tell

Then we are given the church which is in heaven Revealed in verses 7:9-19

Why?

 

 

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On 3/14/2018 at 12:29 PM, Last Daze said:

Ever since Jesus shed His blood on the cross, the new covenant began.  Central to new covenant teaching is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit for those who believe in Jesus.  Consequently, believers are referred to as the temple of God because He dwells within us through His Spirit.  Collectively, we as the body of Christ are His temple as well.  God’s temple is where He dwells.  Any reference to the temple of God during the time of the new covenant is a reference to the body of Christ, either corporately or to the individual members, because that’s where God dwells.

 

  • Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it.”  Revelation 11:1

     

This is clearly a reference to the new testament understanding of “temple” because people are being measured.  This “measuring” correlates to the time when the two witnesses are sent, which is same time as the false prophet’s war against the saints, which is the same as the time of great distress.  What’s being measured is the temple of God (the body of Christ), the altar (the sacrifices being made) and those who worship in it (the individual believer).  The question is how is this measuring going to take place during that time?

 

Is this rhetorical?

Specifically are you waiting to give your answer?

Personally I researched it and there are few answers in any scriptures I noted (or anyone else per the commentaries I read on this topic).

I have been giving the answer to this out for what? 2 years now.  Not much interest.  

 

 

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4 hours ago, eileenhat said:

Is this rhetorical?

Specifically are you waiting to give your answer?

Personally I researched it and there are few answers in any scriptures I noted (or anyone else per the commentaries I read on this topic).

I have been giving the answer to this out for what? 2 years now.  Not much interest.  

No, its not a rhetorical question.  I've only recently started considering Rev 11:1-2 from a spiritual perspective and was curious as to other's thoughts.  Can you give the answer out one more time?

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Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it.”  Revelation 11:1

 

This is the church in heaven

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