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The Mystery of the Mark

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2 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

 

Goofier than I first thought!

Well, it should not take too long to find out if you are a false prophet.

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18 hours ago, Diaste said:

Rev 13:18

" Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Does anyone have this understanding? I do not, but I would like to understand.

Hi Diaste,

THE MARK –  Gk. `charagma,` stamp as a badge of servitude.

This I see as a chip implanted under the skin with all the details of that person`s life, health, medical, finance, etc. Information of that individual that is presently available on our chips, on our cards or in our phones. Information that separates you from every other person on the planet. Information that is needed to connect you into man`s new order. Then finally it is information that means allegiance to the A/C.

 

THE NAME – Gk. `onoma,` a `name,` (lit. or fig.) authority, character.

This I see as the authority of the A/C, the world leader. If you desire to `buy or sell` then you will need this authority. Today we need to have all sorts of authority to work in opportunity shops to working with children, to doing business etc etc. The world system requires their authority for you to transact & do business. The world system by the A/C believes it has the power & authority (that only God has) to regulate people`s buying & selling.

 

THE NUMBER – Gk. `arithmos,` a number, from `airo,` reckoned.

`Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.` (Rev. 13: 18)

I believe the number of the `beast` is a summary of him, his character & authority. (Daniel 11: 21 – 45 gives a good description.)

 

666  = 600 + 60 + 6.

6 -  sinful man.

60  = 6 X 10 - sinful man disobeying God`s law.

600  = 6 X 10 X 10 – sinful man controlled by the spirit of complete lawlessness.

 

`the coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power & signs & lying wonders.` (2 Thess. 2: 9)

 

This number describes the `beast` & his world system of control. Everyone in this system will have a number to identify them as different from others. People can be verified, tracked & controlled.

Finally, everyone in the world`s system will have the MARK (details of life) & a NUMBER connecting them to the system. Then if people want to `buy & selL,` they will need the authorisation of this system – the NAME. Note, not everyone `buys & sells,` - some elderly in nursing homes, some disabled, some poor, some living off the land etc.

 

Marilyn.

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23 hours ago, other one said:

when someone tells you to worship someone/something or they will cut your head off, you will know that it's the beast that some call the antichrist.....    it will be obvious....   until then we can speculate all over the place...

Sure. But the passage seems so specific. A definite article appears often enough it leads to a specific quality identifying a specific person.

I think it's important as anything as it was written right there, two millennia past. If it was of no consequence then the riddle could have been omitted, but it was not.

Seems like something we are able to discern, and maybe should. 

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16 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

6 -  sinful man.

60  = 6 X 10 - sinful man disobeying God`s law.

600  = 6 X 10 X 10 – sinful man controlled by the spirit of complete lawlessness.

Where is the NAME of MAN ?    This satanic MAN was begotten and born like all men or woman. He has NAME and SURNAME. The number of his NAME is Six hundred threescore and six.  His origin is linked with the Great City, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 

 

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6 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

Where is the NAME of MAN ?    This satanic MAN was begotten and born like all men or woman. He has NAME and SURNAME. The number of his NAME is Six hundred threescore and six.  His origin is linked with the Great City, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 

 

Hi Oseas...,

The word `name` Gk. Word `onoma,` authority & character,  also, `onomai,` renown, to derive advantage from.

THE NAME – Gk. `onoma,` a `name,` (lit. or fig.) authority, character.

This I see as the authority of the A/C, the world leader. If you desire to `buy or sell` then you will need this authority. Today we need to have all sorts of authority to work in opportunity shops to working with children, to doing business etc etc. The world system requires their authority for you to transact & do business. The world system by the A/C believes it has the power & authority (that only God has) to regulate people`s buying & selling.

 

THE NUMBER – Gk. `arithmos,` a number, from `airo,` reckoned.

`Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.` (Rev. 13: 18)

I believe the number of the `beast` is a summary of him, his character & authority. (Daniel 11: 21 – 45 gives a good description.)

 

6 -  sinful man.

60  = 6 X 10 - sinful man disobeying God`s law.

600  = 6 X 10 X 10 – sinful man controlled by the spirit of complete lawlessness (authority and character)

 

Marilyn.

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On 9/23/2018 at 2:48 PM, Last Daze said:

It should be obvious who he is to those who haven't fallen asleep, which makes we wonder why we need to calculate it ahead of time if indeed we are supposed to know ahead of time.

I guess it seems we should be able to know, the riddle appears along with the clue to solving the riddle.

I don't know why this would appear if not relevant nor important. It's not like this calculation has anything to do with the actions of the beast. As has been said we will know who he is by those actions. Then why the apparent superfluity?

And why tell us, "Here is wisdom...", "...those with understanding..." in relation to this number of this particular person? 

Maybe we need to know this. Maybe not. It's certain we are able to to know, given the understanding.

 

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Another thing I have heard about this number is this idea John saw something and recorded it as best as he could. It's not Greek numbers but an Arabic phrase, "In the name of Allah" , so the presenter says.

It's related to the Arabic on the headbands of the ISIS fanatics. This presenter says John recorded the closest approximation of what he saw and that CHI XI STIGMA is representative of that part of the vision.

I'm not buying this as scripture says, " count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; " and not, "...interpret an Arabic phrase...", even though this would relate to my conviction the Iron kingdom is Islam, and the feet of Iron and clay is the end of the age iteration of the Iron kingdom.

 

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4 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Oseas...,

The word `name` Gk. Word `onoma,` authority & character,  also, `onomai,` renown, to derive advantage from.

THE NAME – Gk. `onoma,` a `name,` (lit. or fig.) authority, character.

This I see as the authority of the A/C, the world leader. If you desire to `buy or sell` then you will need this authority. Today we need to have all sorts of authority to work in opportunity shops to working with children, to doing business etc etc. The world system requires their authority for you to transact & do business. The world system by the A/C believes it has the power & authority (that only God has) to regulate people`s buying & selling.

 

THE NUMBER – Gk. `arithmos,` a number, from `airo,` reckoned.

`Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.` (Rev. 13: 18)

I believe the number of the `beast` is a summary of him, his character & authority. (Daniel 11: 21 – 45 gives a good description.)

 

6 -  sinful man.

60  = 6 X 10 - sinful man disobeying God`s law.

600  = 6 X 10 X 10 – sinful man controlled by the spirit of complete lawlessness (authority and character)

 

Marilyn.

The MAN of sin and son of perdition has NAME and SURNAME.  He is among us inhabitants of the Earth,  this satanic MAN was born decades ago, so I ask? What is his NAME? He has a NAME, of course, NAME and SURNAME.    

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3 hours ago, Diaste said:

. . .  the feet of Iron and clay is the end of the age iteration of the Iron kingdom.

Isaiah 64:verse 8 reveals clearly whom are the clay, I think you did not remember of this Scripture when you posted: 

8 But now, O Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

9 Be not wroth very sore, O Lord, neither remember iniquity for ever: behold, see, we beseech thee, we are all thy people.

10 Thy holy cities are a wilderness, Zion is a wilderness, Jerusalem a desolation.    -     Today, Jerusalem is FULL of idolatries and witcheries, the way the Devil likes (John 8:v44 gives us the origin of this satanic environment in Jerusalem), this explain the why the Great City be spiritually called  Sodom and Egypt actually. (Rev.11:v8)

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3 hours ago, Diaste said:

I guess it seems we should be able to know, the riddle appears along with the clue to solving the riddle.

I don't know why this would appear if not relevant nor important. It's not like this calculation has anything to do with the actions of the beast. As has been said we will know who he is by those actions. Then why the apparent superfluity?

And why tell us, "Here is wisdom...", "...those with understanding..." in relation to this number of this particular person? 

Maybe we need to know this. Maybe not. It's certain we are able to to know, given the understanding.

 

One question to ask is "when did this identity become 'knowable'"?  Could the first century believers have calculated it?  Second century?  Twenty-first century? 

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