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For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:8

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Matthew 4:3-4

And wthe tempter came and said to him, “If you are xthe Son of God, command ythese stones to become loaves of bread.” But he answered, z“It is written,

a“ ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, 

but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’ ”

I love these verses and the following 

Satan tried to tempt Jesus, but Jesus didn’t argue with him time and time again he would just say

“ it is written”

He used the word of God because he knew Satan couldn’t defend himself against the truth and time and time again he would try but again Jesus didn’t argue.. just quoted the truth

Finally Satan knew he couldn’t win and left 🤣

Gods word is our defense against Satan, he can use many tactics if we try to argue or justify ourselves, but the word of God stands firm it never changes and Satan has no defense against it

Keep strong in the word Brothers and Sisters the truth will set you free 🥰 and Gods word is the truth

SHALOM ❤️

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For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:3-5
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3 minutes ago, Mama Etna said:
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:3-5

I don't like this scripture. 

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2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I don't like this scripture. 

You don't have to agree with God, nor like what He says. However, shouldn't that be our ambition, to align our understanding to His expression, to meditate upon his word, and cultivate a love for it?

What don't you like about it?

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23 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

You don't have to agree with God, nor like what He says. However, shouldn't that be our ambition, to align our understanding to His expression, to meditate upon his word, and cultivate a love for it?

What don't you like about it?

Hi Omegaman, and thank you for asking.

This is the scripture I said that I do not like it. 

That does not make me an unbeliever not an atheist. 

*"For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Part one.*
 
*"Abraham believed God", God said something to Abraham and Abraham believe him.
But this not the first time God said something to Abraham and Abraham believe him.
 
The question is; 
Why this time God counted to him for righteousness and not the other times before. 
 
And the other question is the following;
Do we all have to wait for God to tell us something so we can believe him and he can count it to us for righteousness?
And how about if God does not talk to us, then what? Do we miss the opportunity to be counted as righteous? 
 
 
**Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:3-5" part two.**

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Hi Omegaman, and thank you for asking.

This is the scripture I said that I do not like it. 

That does not make me an unbeliever not an atheist. 

*"For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Part one.*
 
*"Abraham believed God", God said something to Abraham and Abraham believe him.
But this not the first time God said something to Abraham and Abraham believe him.

Etc.

High friendnt,

I am not the infallible interpreter of scripture to be sure, I am just an amateur exegete, but I'll give it a shot:

First off, this idea is given to us in several places in the New Testament, James 2:23, Rom 4:3, Gal 3:6. This is a reference to Genesis 15:6 I believe:

And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.

Now, one of the exegetical notions I practice is to always check the context, the context of this verse in Genesis, is as follows:

1 After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, “Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.”

2 But Abram said, “Lord God, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?” 3 Then Abram said, “Look, You have given me no offspring; indeed one born in my house is my heir!”

4 And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, “This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.” 5 Then He brought him outside and said, “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.”

So, there you see the context, a childless old man, who see's himself as beyond the age of having kids, is going to be the ancestor of countless people.

That is when the text said "And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness." Fair enough. In this case, it is not believing in just any old thing that the Lord said, it is believing the specific thing that the Lord said to Abram, that he was going to the the father of a multitude, right?

Now, let's run with that a little further. First, you asked some good questions. When Abram was around, there was no scripture, not even the ten commandments. He had no way to believe what God said, no way to know what God said, unless God would send him a prophet, or speak to him directly.

This is something quite different from our situation.

Back to the exegetical perspective for a moment, we looked at the context, but there is another important principle, let scripture interpret scripture. There is also another one, understand the Old Testament, in the light of the New Testament?

Why would we do this? Because the more information we have, the more revelation we are given, the more we will understand. As Paul told us, the Old Testament was our schoolmaster, a shadow, but it leads to the reality, which is Christ. Christ of course, had disciples, and they were given further inspiration, to give us the New Testament, so, let's take a peek at it.

In the Book of Hebrews we see Abraham's faith commented on:

11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

Now that one is really loaded, but there is no need to go into all the details here, but notice in particular, that Abe's faith was such that he had the faith to kill his "only" son, because God had promised him that there would be a multitude through Isaac, the son of God's promise to Abraham. Abraham trusted God so much, that He believed that even if he killed his own son, that God's promise of offspring was still good, God keeps His promises. Abraham, believed that God would raise Isaac from the dead, to keep His promise.

As I mentioned, Abraham had no scripture to read, that makes us different, let's look to that also:

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Okay, so in former times, God spoke to people in different ways, but in latter times, He spoke by His Son. So, in keeping with believing God, we are now to believe what God has said, by believing His Son.

When we believe what Jesus said, we are believing God. Jesus said He is the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father except by Him.

He also designated apostles to tell us the things that he told them, and among them, that it is through faith it Jesus, trusting Him for our salvation, that our faith is then, counted as righteousness. Does this help at all?

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4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I don't like this scripture. 

Faith and Assurance
(Genesis 1:1–2; John 1:1–5)

1Now faith is the assurance of what we hope for and the certainty of what we do not see. 2This is why the ancients were commended.

3By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

The Faith of Abel, Enoch, Noah
(Genesis 4–9)

4By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous when God gave approval to his gifts. And by faith he still speaks, even though he is dead.

5By faith Enoch was taken upa so that he did not see death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”b For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.

7By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in godly fear built an ark to save his family. By faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

The Faith of Abraham and Sarah
(Genesis 15–22; Romans 4:1–12)

8By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, without knowing where he was going. 9By faith he dwelt in the promised land as a stranger in a foreign country. He lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

11By faith Sarah, even though she was barren and beyond the proper age, was enabled to conceive a child, because she considered Him faithful who had promised. 12And so from one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

14Now those who say such things show that they are seeking a country of their own. 15If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

17By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac on the altar. He who had received the promises was ready to offer his one and only son,c 18even though God had said to him, “Through Isaac your offspring will be reckoned.”d 19Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and in a sense, he did receive Isaac back from death.

The Faith of Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph
(Genesis 27–50)

20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning the future.

21By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites and gave instructions about his bones.

The Faith of Moses
(Exodus 2–15; Acts 7:20–22)

23By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after his birth, because they saw that he was a beautiful child, and they were unafraid of the king’s edict.

24By faith Moses, when he was grown, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25He chose to suffer oppression with God’s people rather than to experience the fleeting enjoyment of sin. 26He valued disgrace for Christ above the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking ahead to his reward.

27By faith Moses left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw Him who is invisible. 28By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch Israel’s own firstborn.

29By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to follow,e they were drowned.

The Faith of Many
(Joshua–Malachi)

30By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the people had marched around them for seven days.

31By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies in peace, did not perish with those who were disobedient.

32And what more shall I say? Time will not allow me to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel, and the prophets, 33who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34quenched the raging fire, and escaped the edge of the sword; who gained strength from weakness, became mighty in battle, and put foreign armies to flight.

35Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused their release, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36Still others endured mocking and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.

37They were stoned, they were sawed in two,f they were put to death by the sword. They went around in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, oppressed, and mistreated. 38The world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and hid in caves and holes in the ground.

39These were all commended for their faith, yet they did not receive what was promised. 40God had planned something better for us, so that together with us they would be made perfect.

All those people are saved by faith , now a day we are sure of our Salvation when we accept Jesus as our Savior,they didn't have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in those days yet ,yet they walk close with God and believed in Him by faith...and therefore they're saved.

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