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If the Great Apostasy has happened?

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.


In Matthew 5:18 Jesus was talking about only the Hebrew Bible.

If there was an universal apostasy, We would not have the Greek Bible, NT today at all.
The NT would have been destroyed and all religious books,  works would have been destroyed too.

Edited by Daniel Marsh
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2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)
Before Christ’s coming there will be certain signs


2 1-4 Now we do implore you, by the very certainty of Christ’s coming and of our meeting him together, to keep your heads and not be thrown off balance by any prediction or message or letter purporting to come from us, and saying that the day of Christ is almost here. Don’t let anyone deceive you by any means whatsoever. That day will not come before there arises a definite rejection of God and the appearance of the lawless man. He is the product of all that leads to death, and he sets himself up in opposition to every religion. He himself takes his seat in the temple of God, to show that he really claims to be God.

5-12 I expect you remember now how I talked about this when I was with you. You will probably also remember how I used to talk about a “restraining power” which would operate until the time should come for the emergence of this man. Evil is already insidiously at work but its activities are restricted until what I have called the “restraining power” (of God) is removed. When that happens the lawless man will be plainly seen—though the truth of the Lord Jesus spells his doom, and the radiance of the coming of the Lord Jesus will be his utter destruction. The lawless man is produced by the spirit of evil and armed with all the force, wonders and signs that falsehood can devise. To those involved in this dying world he will come with evil’s undiluted power to deceive, for they have refused to love the truth which could have saved them. God sends upon them, therefore, the full force of evil’s delusion, so that they put their faith in an utter fraud and meet the inevitable judgment of all who have refused to believe the truth and who have made evil their play-fellow.


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Revelation 13 Good News Translation (GNT)
The Two Beasts


13 Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads; on each of its horns there was a crown, and on each of its heads there was a name that was insulting to God. 2 The beast looked like a leopard, with feet like a bear's feet and a mouth like a lion's mouth. The dragon gave the beast his own power, his throne, and his vast authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have been fatally wounded, but the wound had healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast. 4 Everyone worshiped the dragon because he had given his authority to the beast. They worshiped the beast also, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who can fight against it?”

5 The beast was allowed to make proud claims which were insulting to God, and it was permitted to have authority for forty-two months. 6 It began to curse God, his name, the place where he lives, and all those who live in heaven. 7 It was allowed to fight against God's people and to defeat them, and it was given authority over every tribe, nation, language, and race. 8 All people living on earth will worship it, except those whose names were written before the creation of the world in the book of the living which belongs to the Lamb that was killed.

9 “Listen, then, if you have ears! 10 Whoever is meant to be captured will surely be captured; whoever is meant to be killed by the sword will surely be killed by the sword. This calls for endurance and faith on the part of God's people.”

11 Then I saw another beast, which came up out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb's horns, and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It used the vast authority of the first beast in its presence. It forced the earth and all who live on it to worship the first beast, whose wound had healed. 13 This second beast performed great miracles; it made fire come down out of heaven to earth in the sight of everyone. 14 And it deceived all the people living on earth by means of the miracles which it was allowed to perform in the presence of the first beast. The beast told them to build an image in honor of the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was allowed to breathe life into the image of the first beast, so that the image could talk and put to death all those who would not worship it. 16 The beast forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, slave and free, to have a mark placed on their right hands or on their foreheads. 17 No one could buy or sell without this mark, that is, the beast's name or the number that stands for the name.

 

Is there only one leader over the whole planet today?


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In Short, the NT has not been destroyed.   The whole world is not worshiping the beast.  There is not a one world government. 

When these things happen, Jesus will return to destroy the beast, Anti Christ after 42 months.   There is not an universal mark on peoples hand or head for shopping.  

Many Religions still exist today,  when the Great Apostasy happens there will be only one false religion.  And Christians who are being killed by the beast.  

Can you think of any other conditions that will be when the Anti Christ is temporary in control?

 

 

 

 


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Can you think of any other conditions that will be when the Anti Christ is temporary in control for 42 months?


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31 minutes ago, Daniel Marsh said:

Can you think of any other conditions that will be when the Anti Christ is temporary in control for 42 months?

Hi Daniel,

Yes, the Body of Christ will have been in heaven with Christ judging the fallen angels and the world system. (1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)

Marilyn.

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1 hour ago, Daniel Marsh said:

Can you think of any other conditions that will be when the Anti Christ is temporary in control for 42 months?

Those who know their God will be strong and do exploits, taking a Kingdom to present to Him Whose it rightfully is when He returns to finish off the resistance to His righteous rule :)

let the fur fly :)

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10 minutes ago, Jostler said:

let the fur fly :)

That's pretty funny, Jostler! LOL God bless!

Shalom, 

David/BeauJangles

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Just now, BeauJangles said:

That's pretty funny, Jostler! LOL God bless!

Shalom, 

David/BeauJangles

thankyou for seeing the humor :) 


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40 minutes ago, Jostler said:

thankyou for seeing the humor :) 

Those mountain trees in your signature are like bonsai.  The are dwarfed, rugged survivors growing out of clefts in the basalt above the tree line.  

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