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2 hours ago, breathoflife said:

Actually this being is trinity of evil. There is Satan the father, anti-christ the son and the false prophet the unholy Spirit they are shown I believe it is rev. 16. The Dragon is shown and out of the Dragon are the three persons mentioned above. Satan being a created entity does not have the omnipresence of God. That is why each person is in their own place. Satan the father is in heaven accusing the brethren day and night before God the Father, anti-christ is in the Bottomless Pit waiting to be released. Satan the false prophet is presently at work in the world opposing the ministry of the Holy Spirit. 

‘When anti-christ and the false prophet come upon the world they are here until the end of Daniel’s 70th Week. When they are defeated they are both thrown into the Lake of Fire. Satan is brought down from heaven in chains and placed in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years Satan is released leads the Gentile nations, Gog and Magog. They are defeated. Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire where anti-Christ and the false prophet have been for a thousand years.

Where do you place Satan during the 42 months of the Beast?


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I thought I said right where Scripture says he is in heaven accusing the brethren before God the Father day and night


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11 hours ago, Da Puppers said:

Let me address a couple of problems that I have with your understanding. 

1.  You make the association of the false prophet with the beast from the earth.   But you see only one person here which is neither a king nor part of a kingdom.   What this effectively does is create a third unidentified meaning for a beast.   You have the beast from the earh as not representing a king nor a kingdom. 

2.  You have no identity to the kingdom of the 6th king of Rev 17:10.  If you place the identity of this 6th king to John's day [Rome or whatever]  this results in a picture of Jerusalem that does not match up with the description that is given in Rev 17, decorated with gold and pearls.   If you are looking at a different time stamp for this portrayal of Jerusalem,  you need to give a time stamp.   So which one of the 7 kingdoms does the beast represent and how does this match up with John saying that this 6th king currently IS.   Besides that,  John tells us that the 7 heads represents 7 kings,  and not 7 kingdoms. 

To give an abbreviated answer to your question about the identity of the 4 kings.   Daniel 2 tells us that Nebuchadnezzar is the head of gold... not Babylon.   

Be Blessed 

The PuP 

1.  I did not make this association: John did. The second Beast is later CALLED "the False Prophet."  Yes, I see only one false prophet.  At this time I have no understanding of his two horns, but then, John wrote nothing about them either. Therefore anything about them would only be a guess.  Can you find a scripture anywhere giving us more information about his two horns?  In fact, can you find any reference to him at all other than what John tells us?  A beast is a man and a man is a Beast. This is established in both Daniel and in Revelation outside of the False Prophet.  I will agree with you as per no kingdom.

2. The 6th mountain and king is over course Rome but I will let you guess which "king." Do we need to know which one?

this results in a picture of Jerusalem that does not match up with the description that is given in Rev 17  Of course not.  In John's discussion of the 7 heads, "5 are fallen" is history, "one is" is John's day, and one yet to come was future to John and still future to us today.  The description of Jerusalem in chapter 17 is during the last half of the still future 70th week. That would be the time of c; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. "

If you are looking at a different time stamp for this portrayal of Jerusalem,  you need to give a time stamp.   Just did: the second half of the 70th week.

So which one of the 7 kingdoms does the beast represent  The Antichrist man (Beast of chapter 13) will be "the other is not yet come." The Beast of which the woman is riding is represented by all of the 7 heads.

how does this match up with John saying that this 6th king currently IS.  Perfectly: "Is" was in John's time. The 7th head is future to us today.

John tells us that the 7 heads represents 7 kings,  and not 7 kingdoms.  This is only true of you ignore the 7 mountains. 

In interlinear it is Here is the mind having wisdom: The seven heads seven mountains are where the woman sits on them and kings seven

We could rearrange:  Here is the mind having wisdom: The seven heads where the woman sits on them are  seven mountains and kings seven

In other words, the mountains and kings go together.  I agree with JFB commentary that says "mountains" represent seats of power.

In the days when Israel was slaves of Egypt, at that time Egypt was a very significant seat of power in the world. The same with Babylon in the days of Nebuchadnezzar, and the same with Medo-Persia and Greece. I don't think "Rome" was meant at all by the seven Mountains.  The Pulpit Commentary said " so "mountains" have a symbolical meaning, namely, prominent seats of power "

A "seat of power" usually has a KING or leader associated with it, so John wrote "there are 7 kings."

I think you are vastly outnumbered here by the commentarires.

Agreed: Nebuchadnezzar was the head of Gold.

It is my guess that every one of these 5 falling kings is a king named in the bible.


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1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

At this time I have no understanding of his two horns,

IMO The two Horns represent a false version of the Two witnesses. This all being part of the strong Delusion. they Oppose the Truth, and Jesus is the Truth. 


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10 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

 

But in the verse 28, Daniel says to the king Nebuchadnezzar:

28 But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these; ... and Daniel told / revealed to the king the dream in seven verses, from verse 29 to 35.

Well, there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets,...and maketh known ...what shall be from the kingdom or Empire of Babylon to the latter days or until our days, the days of Apocalypse. 

OK. What did the Word reveal unto Daniel? The Word is God, remember?

First Daniel revealed the dream to the king, afterwards Daniel says to the king: 

36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

Yeah, there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets. What was the interpretation that the Word revealed to Daniel?  The Word is God, remember?

37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a KINGDOM, power, and strength, and glory. 
38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee RULER over them all.  Thou art this head of gold.

1-FIRST Kingdom- "Thou art this head of gold". It is the universal Babylon Empire (It lasted approximately 600 to 539BC)

39 And after thee shall arise another KINGDOM (the second, of silver) inferior to thee, 

2nd kingdom- The image's breast and his (2)arms of silver. It is the universal Medo-Persia Empire.(both represent the two arms of the Great statue. It lasted approximately 539 to 330BC)

and another THIRD KINGDOM of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

3rd kingdom- The image's belly and his thighs of brass. It is the Greek Empire. (It lasted approximately 330 to 301BC. After this, from the year 301BC until 27BC there was a gap of 274 years, i.e. until the beginning of the Roman Empire).

40 And the FOURTH KINGDOM shall be strong as iron: ...

4-Fourth Kingdom- The image's legs(2legs) of iron,...It is the universal Roman Empire. (It lasted approximately 27BC to 476AD. The Empire was divided in two Empires: the Western Roman Empire (dissolved in 480AD), and Eastern Roman Empire, dissolved in 1453AD.(both represent the two legs of the Great statue). After this, no more any Empire arose to this day or until this year 2.019. 

The main detail after dissolution of the Roman Empire is that only and only its religious system, the Roman Catholic Church, remains until the present time.  

What will be the next Universal Empire that will be established over the World in accord the sequence of the Great Image's material? 

NOW WE ARE LIVING IN THE PERIOD OF THE FEET AND TOES OF THE GREAT STATUE

... the feet is part of iron and part of clay.  It is the EPHEMERAL universal and RELIGIOUS Antichrist's Empire that will be established over the world from now on. Actually the fifth and last Universal kingdom of the Devil.

Then will be established the next Universal Kingdom, that is the Kingdom of God. Revelation 5:v.10 and 1 Cor.15:24-28 among others.

41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron (two feet and 10 toes), the kingdom shall be divided; ... -  How will it be divided?  - 

The Universal and religious Antichrist's Empire will be divided between the Beast of sea-the Pope and his religious system- the RCC-Catholicism- and the Beast like a lamb-a false lamb, a false messiah of the Jews, and his religious system-the JUDAISM.   Both Beasts will build the Antichrist's Empire, as soon as manifest himself the Beast like a lamb, the false messiah of the Jews.  The Jews are waiting their peculiar messiah, not JESUS.

... but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.  42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.   -  the gigantic and strong structures of the Papacy and the Great Whore-the RCC-, with his headquarters in the Vatican City, it is the strength of the iron -  

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.    - The Jews do not cleave to Gentile people - 

The next Universal kingdom will be the Kingdom of God. Revelation 5:v.10 and 1 Cor.15:24-28

44  And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the Kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45  Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

Verse 35:  35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

QUESTION
Why was the stone thrown toward the feet and not at the head of the statue?

The answer: 
Because the stone is going to be cast now, in this present time of apocalypse, where are the statue's feet - Judaism and Catholicism with their universal and satanic Antichrist's Empire.    The FIRST RULER of this devilish anti-Christ Empire will be the Beast of the sea-the Pope; He will rule it by the first 42 months or 1260 days as is prophesied in Revelation 13:v.5.  

34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Revelation 11:v.15 & 18
15  The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

18 And the nations were angry - yeah the nations will be angry - , and thy wrath is come - yeah the wrath of God is come - , and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that God should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 12:v.10
Now is come salvation, and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ:

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (made them by Him) and LORD of lords

This is a theory.


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9 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

It is not the case, but even it be a theory for you, I must say: Among countless theories that the spirit of men has invented, this is the only theory that is true because it is not from men.

And this is the Word of the LORD, and it will fulfil literally : Unto every one that has shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that has not shall be taken away even that which he has. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in this Judgment of the Lord's Day.
 

" The Universal and religious Antichrist's Empire will be divided between the Beast of sea-the Pope and his religious system- the RCC-Catholicism "

MYTH When has the Catholic church deceived all in the world as the Beast from the sea will do? Answer: NEVER.

The "religion" of the Beast is going to be a NEW religion: HE - the BEAST - is God.  And the False Prophet will have lying miracles to prove it.


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I am impressed by the effort all of you folks have put into this stuff.

This isn't something that the Lord ever has led me to search out much beyond the reading and what you run into as a matter of course through the years.

After reading the thread---the impression I am left with is that none of you know for sure.

I have wondered over the years a time or three why the Lord hadn't opened my eyes to understand the book of Revelation. I reckon He leaves that for other members of the Body. I actually remember a time where I thought the Lord was telling me to leave it alone.

Go figure.


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On ‎9‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 2:13 PM, iamlamad said:

I have always been puzzled by the experts' theories of the 5 fallen heads as Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. This does not seem to fit Daniel 2 or Daniel 7. I am just thinking out loud and looking for help.

In Daniel 7 the first beast was a Lion with one head: perhaps to represent Babylon then and the land area today.

The second beast was a bear with one head: perhaps to represent Medo-Persia then and the land area today.

The third beast was a leopard with four heads: perhaps to represent Alexander's four Generals: Lysimachus, Cassander, Ptolomy, Seleucus

The fourth beast was a fearsome beast with one head: to represent Ancient Rome and then perhaps the Antichrist Beast of Revelation.

When I count up these heads, I get seven heads. 

Rev. 17:So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

It would seem that the 7 heads in Revelation should match the 7 heads of Daniel. Perhaps the "heads" here and "Kings" of verse 10 of whom 5 have fallen, represent more the empire rather than a specific king. "Fallen" then may be telling us that the empire was conquered. 

When we look at Daniel 2, the great image, it has Babylon, Medo-Persia (two arms and chest), belly of Brass for the Grecian empire, legs of iron to represent Rome. This really does not fit the heads of chapter 7. The belly would have to have four heads. However, this image is what gets destroyed in the end. I would seem Egypt and Assyria are on end time empires. 

Any thoughts? 

You have to ask yourself, what is the time frame of the vision? From where does John describe events, the key is in the description  in Rev 17: 10 which says ”five are fallen, one is, the other has not yet come,” as they are empires in the different stages of the beast. Lets look in the text:

 Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The seven kings are the seven beasts of biblical prophecy. Kings, mountains, and beasts are used interchangeably in the above verses. The book of Daniel identifies kings and or kingdoms with prophetic beasts. Mountains also may prophetically represent kingdoms. Mount Zion is the kingdom of God. Satan was kicked out of the holy mountain of God, God's kingdom(Eze 28). The seven kings, beasts, and mountains are his counterfeit kingdoms of this world in rebellion against God.

The prophecy is given from the time of the sixth beast, kingdom, or mountain, for five have fallen when given. Thus you start at this point, which is the Roman Empire and work your way back. This gives you the five fallen empires, working backwards its Greece, Medo-Persia, Babylon, Assyria, Egypt.

So the best way to understand this is to view the seven biblical kingdoms in succession. (Kings and their kingdoms are closely linked in prophetic literature.) Five have fallen (in John’s time) = Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece. Now which one was in power when John was imprisoned, it was Rome. Did Rome persecute Christians? Absolutely, so its clear the sixth, the "one is" = Rome.  The "other is not yet come" = the kingdom of the Antichrist power, which is the seventh and comes after Rome.

So what comes after Rome, well history clearly shows that the Roman Empire was divided and instead of it being Rome ruled by Caesar, it became the "Roman Empire" as it took its authority and became ruled by the church, which became corrupt. The church from Rome became a politico-religious power and during the Dark Ages, the church persecuted real Christians. burned them at the stake and used armies to kill anyone who stood in its way and it receives a deadly wound but it comes back to life. These represent the 7 heads of that beast.

So next we look at Revelation 17:11 "Is himself also the eighth and is of the seven" This verse makes the most sense if we understand the two phases of Antichrist’s kingdom:

The first phase is his initial version as the sixth kingdom of the Antichrist power after the Roman Empire from which it arises. The second phase is after it receives what appears to be a deadly wound which makes it appear to be gone but it arises again and now is the final eight kingdom. During this time Jesus will return and destroy it. 

If you look in history you will find this politico-religious power seemed to be taken down at the time of Napoleon but yet it revives. Papal supremacy of the Dark Ages ended in the year 1798, exactly 1260 years after Justinian’s decree established the Papacy as the supreme Christian power in 538 AD which allowed it to rise after the Roman Empire. In 1798, Napoleon’s army took the Pope captive and put him into exile, and for all appearances the power of the papacy seems to be broken.    

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Posted
14 hours ago, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

No, it is not true. There will not be any NEW religion, you are inventing a supposed NEW religion sowing that as TARES among the readers here, and HE, the BEAST of the sea will not manifest himself as GOD, absolutely, you are saying he is GOD erroneously, but maybe your GOD, for who really will manifest himself as God is the son of perdition, the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah/prophet (John 5:v.43), a former Cherub, the own Satan incarnated.

Iron & Clay, Gentile and Jewish peoples, ruled and guided by TWO beasts, different one another, but both are satanic Beasts as is described above, and both will be together to establish a satanic religious Empire, the fifh and last Universal Empire (Daniel 2), the Antichrist's Empire, iron & clay, as follow:

1- The FIRST Beast, the BLASPHEMER Beast of the Sea- the Pope Paulus VII, enthroned in the Vatican City, a Gentile Beast, with his Woman, the Great Whore, the Roman Catholic Church, which rides upon the Beast from the Sea;


2 - The esoteric Beast from the earth -from Israel- a dry land, SPIRITUALLY as a dry fig tree and called Sodom and Egypt, whose MAN will manifest himself as a lamb, actually a false lamb, a false messiah, a false prophet, a former Cherub, the own Satan incarnated, Eliyahu, the 666;     

Now, now, the ancient Beast from the sea has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his (10) horns ten crowns, and upon his (7) heads the a very vedry ancient name of blasphemy.  

The false prophet is the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah, the 666 - Revelation 13:v.11-18- it is he who will make lying wonders, not the Beast of sea as you say, Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

The Universal and religious Antichrist's Empire will be divided between the Beast of sea-the Pope and his religious system- the RCC-Catholicism- and the Beast like a lamb-a false lamb, a false messiah of the Jews, and his religious system-the JUDAISM.   Both Beasts will build the Antichrist's Empire, as soon as manifest himself the Beast like a lamb, the false messiah of the Jews.

 The Jews are waiting their peculiar messiah, not JESUS.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (made them by Him) and LORD of lords
 

No, it is not true. There will not be any NEW religion, you are inventing a supposed NEW religion I guess you just forgot this scripture, or did not understand it. Did you not read Paul? Try it here in 2 Thes. 2:

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

This man of sin will enter the temple and declare that HE is the god of the Jews. He will come to IMITATE the REAL Messiah who really IS GOD.

By the way, the man of sin is going to go to JERUSALEM, not the Vatican.


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On 10/14/2019 at 7:04 PM, Oseas Ramos de Siqueira said:

 

 

 

Iamlamad wrote: MYTH When has the Catholic church deceived all in the world as the Beast from the sea will do? Answer: NEVER.

Now, now, the blasphemer and ancient Beast from the sea* has a gigantic/colossal religious structures of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his (10) horns ten crowns, and upon his (7) heads a very very ancient name of blasphemy, do not you know of this? All readers here can see that you are confusing the Beast from the sea*, with the Beast from the earth-a dry land, as dry as a fig tree-. 

* The Beast of Sea =sea=waters=peoples, nations, multitudes and tongues, yeah, the Beast from the sea* with his 7 heads, and 10 horns is an ancient Beast, the old FIRST Beast that is mentioned in Revelation 13:v.12, and his GIGANTIC/ MONSTRUOS religious structures in whole world make part of the Red Dragon's body, in other words, his gigantic religious structures are embodied in the Red Dragon, the own Satan incarnated.

See, the battle is against the Red Dragon, who has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his (7) heads, and HAS A TERRIBLE AND SCARY TAIL.


In fact the difference between both Beasts is monstruos. But both will be together under a deal to establish an Universal Empire, the Antichrist's Empire, through the colossal and universal religious structures of the Roman Catholic Church ruled and guided by the Pope with headquarter in the Vatican City, and the strong and kabalistic or esoteric religious system of the Jews, the Judaism, with headquarter in Jerusalem. 

Both Eliyahu, the Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah, the Dragon, and Paulus VII, the last Pope of the RCC, both will establish the Universal Antichrist's Empire, the fifth and last kingdom of the Devil (Daniel 2), and it will happen not so far from this present time.  

Surely the Beast of sea* is a deceiver MAN, but in none of the first TEN verses of Revelation 13 (1 to 10) related specificaly to the Beast from the Sea, does it say that this MAN will deceive the whole world, as you suggest erroneously through your post. You are wrong as it is showed as follows: 

1 - What Scriptures say, by allegory, is that this religious and blasphemer MAN, the Beast from the sea*, it is a ruler and guide of a enormous and strong religious structures in whole world, i.e. in Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and North America, and Central America, and South America, evidently, whose structures the Scripture, by allegory, describes them as being 7 heads. Do you understand?

2 - Now, even now, from now on, one of the 7 heads of Beast of sea*, that is the FIRST Beast, as is mentioned in Revelation 13:v.12, will be wounded to death; and the head that will be wounded to death is the region of South America, by the way, the Pope Francis is of South America, he is from Argentina. But the deadly wound will be healed: and all the WORLD (Gentile and Jewish peoples) will be wondered after the Beast of the sea*. Revelation 13:v.3

3 - How or why the deadly wound will be healed? The deadly wound will be healed because for by the occasion of this event, which should happen not so far from this present time, the Beast of the earth, whose MAN is one Beast like a lamb, but he speaks as a Dragon, actually a false lamb, a false messiah, a false prophet, yeah, in his own time this MAN false messiah will have already manifested himself before a chaotic humanity as a messiah, then there will be TWO Beasts manifesting themselves on the earth. And then...

4 -  ... and then this Jewish MAN, the esoteric and false messiah, the Red Dragon, will sit as God on his throne in Jerusalem, in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God, even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And this Beast like a lamb, a false lamb, a false messiah, a false prophet, whose MAN speaks as a Dragon(Revelation 13:v.11), when he sees that one of the 7 heads of the Beast from the sea*(Rev.13:v.1) is mortally wounded, then he will help the satanic Beast of the sea* to heal its mortal wound. With this goal, the false messiah/false prophet, the Dragon, whose name is Eliyahu, enthroned in JERUSALEM, will give to the Beast of sea*, called Paulus VII, his Power, and his Seat, and great Authority. Revelation 13:v.2  

5- And the earth (Israel-a dry land, actually SPIRITUALLY as a dry fig tree), and even the whole world, they will worship the false messiah-the Dragon- which will give power unto the BLASPHEMER Beast from the sea*, nicknamed Paulus VII. And they- the whole world- will worship the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make WAR with him? Revelation 13:v.4------Yeah, who is able to make WAR against the BLASPHEMER Beast of the sea*

6 - That said, what more will happen? What will happen is terrible, very terrible. In that occasion the Antochrist's Empire, the fifth and last Empire prophesied by Daniel in the chapter 2, will be already running or established and there will be given unto the BLASPHEMER Beast of the sea*, Paulus VII, with the support of the false messiah, Eliyahu, the Dragon, a MOUTH to speak great things and blasphemies; and power will be given unto him to continue 42 months or 1.260 days, that is the FIRST period of 42 months of the EPHEMERAL Antichrist's Empire ruled by the Pope Paulus VII. 

And he will open his MOUTH in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven heaven=celestial place in Christ as the New Testament-Ephesians 1:v.3= let the reader understand the allusion). And it will be given unto him -unto the Beast of sea*- to make WAR with the saints, and to overcome them: and power will be given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth will worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


7 - But Judgment will be given to the saints of the most High; and will come the time that the saints will possess the Kingdom, the Judgment shall sit, and they will take away the dominion to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the Kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the Kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Matthew 24:v.22 - JESUS warned: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: 
... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

And He - JESUS - will make us kings and priests unto God and His Father; to Him be Glory and Dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

So you think the Beast from the sea will be catholic?  That is why I wrote "myth."

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