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1 hour ago, KJVOnly said:

God commanded Paul to tell us both are nothing.

Now you understand.

OOPS!  Paul requires that we KEEP GOD'S COMMANDS (1Cor.7:192Ti.3:16).....

Not IGNORE GOD'S COMMANDS!

Try again....

 


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1 hour ago, BibleGuy said:

OOPS!  Paul requires that we KEEP GOD'S COMMANDS (1Cor.7:192Ti.3:16).....

Not IGNORE GOD'S COMMANDS!

Try again....

 

Lev 20;13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

Okay, start the fires. 


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2 hours ago, bcbsr said:

First of all Peter doesn't use the word "kingdom" in those verses. Secondly concerning your hypothesis that Paul did not preach the kingdom of God, here's what the Bible says of Paul's preaching:

Ac 28:31  Boldly and without hindrance he preached the kingdom of God and taught about the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ro 14:17  For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,
1Co 4:20  For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power.
1Co 6:9  Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
1Co 6:10  nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 15:24  Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
1Co 15:50  I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
Ga 5:21  and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Eph 2:2  in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
Eph 5:5  For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person— such a man is an idolater— has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Col 1:12  giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in the kingdom of light.
Col 1:13  For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
Col 4:11  Jesus, who is called Justus, also sends greetings. These are the only Jews among my fellow workers for the kingdom of God, and they have proved a comfort to me.
1Th 2:12  encouraging, comforting and urging you to live lives worthy of God, who calls you into his kingdom and glory.
2Th 1:5  All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.
2Ti 4:1  In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2Ti 4:18  The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 

Apparently Peter and Paul preached the same thing.

You were saying?

Just because Peter didn't specifically mention the word kingdom does not mean he was not preaching it. You might have missed that in Acts 2:30 Peter is saying Christ will sit on David's throne which will be in the earthly Davidic kingdom (Psalm 2:6 Jeremiah 33:15). The times of refreshing is the restoration of the kingdom for Israel (Acts 1:6) and when God fulfils the new covenant with Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-34).

Paul spoke of the kingdom of God which includes heaven and earth. Paul spoke of the heavenly kingdom (2 Timothy 4:18).


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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, KJVOnly said:

Lev 20;13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

Okay, start the fires. 

OOPS!  We are still in DIASPORA (as in Jas.1:1) living in foreign governments whose civil laws do NOT uphold Torah.....

So sorry....most countries forbid Lev.20:13 presently....

But don't worry!

Moses PROMISED that we will again obey 100% of Torah AFTER we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8)

Until then, we do what we can....

 

Ok! 

Try again!

This is fun!

blessings...

 

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Dt.30:1-8

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4 hours ago, bcbsr said:

Well let's see about that. Paul says, "Even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" Gal 1:8 and 
"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—" Gal 1:6

You're claiming that the gospel of Jesus and of Peter was a different gospel. Thus you're saying that Paul was condemning Jesus and the other apostles? Yeh right! Try again. 

This is the topic of my original post.

Paul and Peter had their own gospel and apostleship's. Peter and Paul were not in conflict (Galatians 2:9).

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11 minutes ago, BibleGuy said:

OOPS!  We are still in DIASPORA (as in Jas.1:1) living in foreign governments whose civil laws do NOT uphold Torah.....

So sorry....most countries forbid Lev.20:13 presently....

But don't worry!

Moses PROMISED that we will again obey 100% of Torah AFTER we return to inherit the land promised to us (Dt.30:1-8)

Until then, we do what we can....

 

Ok! 

Try again!

This is fun!

blessings...

 

Is this an admission that you would execute gays with fire as commanded in the Law of Moses if the law of the land allowed you to do so?

 


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Just now, KJVOnly said:

Is this an admission that you would execute gays with fire as commanded in the Law of Moses if the law of the land allowed you to do so?

 

PAUL required the DEATH PENALTY for sexual sin (1Cor.5:5).

Do you oppose Paul?

 


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On 12/20/2019 at 3:21 AM, BibleGuy said:

 

REDEMPTION BY THE BLOOD: Eph.1:7

OBEDIENCE TO TORAH REQUIRED BY CHRIST: Mt.5:19

 

 

If you read Matthew 5:17, you'll discover why your verse, (Mt. 5:19) is no longer in effect regarding the Born Again.

Matthew 5:17 

= The Fulfillment of the Law

17 : “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to FULFILL them."

 

Now let me show you where JESUS Fulfilled the LAW, so that you can understand why you are teaching HERESY WHEN you believe and teach, that Christians have to keep the Torah = The LAW.

Look at this verse:....

John 19:28

= It Is Finished

28: After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now ACCOMPLISHED, that the TORAH might be fulfilled<<<   , said," = “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.""

Can you read?

Notice that Jesus has 'ACCOMPLISHED", WHAT HE CAME TO "FULFILL".... = THE TORAH.......all of it.  AND HE DID !!!

See and understand, that on our behalf, and because we could not keep or fulfill the TORAH (Law and Commandments), ....= God had to RESCUE US FROM IT so that we could be accepted by Him.  So, God came here, as Jesus, and fulfilled the TORAH, which ABOLISHED THE TORAH, WITH RESPECT TO KEEPING LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS........  And in their place, He has created a NEW TESTAMENT, a "BETTER COVENANT"...... It is the "law of GRACE"..

"Law, TORAH.......came by MOSES.......but GRACE AND TRUTH, (New Covenant), = CAME BY JESUS........and He fulfilled all the requirements of the TORAH, in our Place, for our sake, and now we dont have to do it.........as HE already did it for us.   = SALVATION.  + = TORAH FULFILLED <. JOHN 19:28

Once Jesus fulfilled the Law and Commandments (Torah), then it was REPLACED by the NEW COVENANT...  NEW TESTAMENT.  GRACE...   JESUS is the NEW Covenant and New Testament AND GRACE..  ITS ALL HIM.  HE'S THE REPLACEMENT FOR THE TORAH..... He wrote the NEW COVENANT in His Own BLOOD.   UNDERSTAND ???????    And with this SHED Blood of the NEW COVENANT, we the born again, are "freed from the curse of the TORAH", (The LAW and Commandments).

The 2 commandments that Jesus gave, are not to be kept............. so that you keep yourself out of Heaven if you dont keep them.

They are simply a part of the New Testament, related to Discipleship......not RELATED TO LAW .

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42 minutes ago, KJVOnly said:

Lev 20;13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

 

Okay, start the fires. 

Mercy Trumps Law.

Did Jesus help Stone the Woman caught in the very act of Adultery? Do you kill your Children when they show disrespect ?

Lets pray that God extends His Mercy to ModernDay Judaizers......Lets hope “ fallen from Grace” and “ severed from the Cross” and being caught in “ Unbelief” does not mean an Eternity in Hell

NOTHING But The Blood Of Jesus for Salvation.....I THANK GOD that I am not on the wrong side of that argument.....I hope Newbies get this ingrained in their Souls....Salvation is a gift GIVEN to those that DO  NOT  WORK for it......100% Grace....

 

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41 minutes ago, BibleGuy said:

This is fun!

 

Sin “IS” fun......... “ For a Season”....... enjoy your season.....

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