Is Christian religion already dead ?

[other one]

11 hours ago, Willa said:

My anthropology teacher said that the Jews of Bible times were the only culture that established a person's age from their day of conception.  Don't know if it is true.  They are matrilineal because they wanted to know if the woman who would give birth to the Messiah had the proper credentials that were prophesied. 

do they consider their conception day as their birthday???

 

[WilliamL]

15 hours ago, Willa said:

My anthropology teacher said that the Jews of Bible times were the only culture that established a person's age from their day of conception.  Don't know if it is true.  They are matrilineal because they wanted to know if the woman who would give birth to the Messiah had the proper credentials that were prophesied. 

 

4 hours ago, other one said:

do they consider their conception day as their birthday???

In ancient times, none of the Jews celebrated birthdays. Instead, everyone became one year older on Rosh Hashanah, the beginning of the original calendar, no matter on what day of the year they were born.

[R. Hartono]

12 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, R. Hartono.

Sure, but after gathering "the elects (chosen ones) with Him in the clouds," where does He go next

 

Are u saying Jesus Will make a U-Turn to return the saints to earth again ?  The great multitude of Revelation is where they go.

[Retrobyter]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Are u saying Jesus Will make a U-Turn to return the saints to earth again ?  The great multitude of Revelation is where they go.

Shalom, R. Hartono.

You're still thinking two-dimensionally. No, His messengers go worldwide and resurrect/transform all of His saints (His holy ones; His consecrated ones; the ones He has singled out), and bring them to Him in Israel!

Look, our Lord Yeshua` will be on a ZEALOUS MISSION when He returns! He will be rescuing His people from genocide, an ethnic purge! He must act quickly, strike swiftly, and defeat His enemies with the precision of a surgeon with a scalpel! After all, they will have taken His people as captives! He won't make the FIRST "U-Turn!" He'll need us as "ground crew" to help with His people, both to lead them to safety, and to do mop-up work with the enemies.

The thing one must understand is that Yeshua` said that His return would be at the end of the sixth seal, which matches His words in the Olivet Discourse. That means ... He'll already be BACK! So, where do you suppose His throne will be established?

Luke 1:30-33 (KJV)

30 And the angel said unto her,

"Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end."

Matthew 25:31-33 (KJV)

31 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, THEN shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left."

Indeed, we have contextual clues that tell us that the Resurrection has already happened!

Revelation 6:9-11 (KJV)

9 And when he had opened THE FIFTH SEAL, I saw under (Greek: hupokatoo = "down under") the altar the souls (Greek: tas psuchas = Hebrew: hanfaashowt = "the air-breathers") of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying,

"How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Why is it assumed that these people were "in heaven?" The text DOESN'T SAY THAT! "Souls" are "air-breathers!" How is that possible without their resurrection as bodies? How can "disembodied spirits" wear white robes? How can they "cry [ANYTHING] with a loud voice" if they HAVE NO VOCAL CORDS?! No, their resurrections must have come FIRST!

Edited January 3, 2020 by Retrobyter
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