why is it impossible

[nobleseed]

why do people think that Jesus having a son is impossible, when revelation talks about the birth of a child that is not the same as the gospels

[angels4u]

Did Jesus have children?"

Answer: The Bible gives no indication that Jesus was married or had children, nor is there any evidence from reliable historical sources to give credence to such an idea. For Jesus to have had children, marriage would have been necessary, according to His own teachings. Once again, there is no evidence, biblical or historical, that Jesus was married. His mission on earth was to make spiritual sons and daughters, not physical ones (Galatians 4:4–5; Ephesians 1:5; Hebrews 2:10).

There are several problems inherent in believing that Jesus had children. First, if Jesus were married or had children, certainly the Gospels would have included that information. In fact, such information would be crucial to our understanding of Him, His nature, and His mission. The biblical Evangelists speak of Jesus’ mother and father and brothers and sisters and cousins, and we can piece together enough detail to identify more probable cousins and an aunt. Peter’s wife and mother-in-law are mentioned (Matthew 8:14), as are Paul’s sister and nephew (Acts 23:16). If Jesus had a wife and/or children, certainly they would have rated a mention.

Another problem with the idea that Jesus was married or had children is that adding to Scripture is condemned (Revelation 22:18). The Word of God is complete, and it needs no additions. What we are told in Scripture is all that is relevant and needful to knowing God and His salvation. The Bible is sufficient (2 Timothy 3:15–17). We do not need to turn to fanciful interpretations of fragmented passages in the Gnostic gospels for “the rest of the story.”https://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-have-children.html

Finally, in light of the life Jesus led, one of poverty and homelessness (Matthew 8:20), He would not have been able to provide for a family, and that would have been a direct violation of His own law, as expressed by the apostle Paul (1 Timothy 5:8). Jesus’ work on earth was to accomplish God’s will, which He finished (John 17:4). Doing so required a singleness of purpose that the responsibilities of fatherhood would only have detracted from: “An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife—and his interests are divided” (1 Corinthians 7:32–34). None of this is to say that marriage is wrong or that sex within marriage is sinful or that having children is less than ideal. The Bible honors marriage (Hebrews 13:4) and says that children are a blessing from God (Psalm 127:3). But the fact remains that Jesus lived a celibate life. We must reject the suggestion that Jesus was married or that He had children, for all the reasons listed above. Almost without exception, those who embrace such myths would deny the deity of Christ and seek to “humanize” Him in the sense of making Him just like any other man.

[Neighbor]

5 hours ago, nobleseed said:

why do people think that Jesus having a son is impossible, when revelation talks about the birth of a child that is not the same as the gospels

Some Cults make Jesus out to be a polygamist, even a brother of Satan. I have no idea how a Christian  born again with the Holy Spirit indwelling might reach that conclusion from reading the Revelation  of Jesus Christ unless they read it in isolation from the entirety of the Bible. I guess one can do that  with  most any area of God's word and build up a doctrine that  does not hold up when compared with the entirety of God's word.

At least one cult  makes Jesus out to be one of many to reach "exaltation" to be God's of their own creations with spirit children aplenty populating their own places of eternal existence.

 

[Justin Adams]

6 hours ago, nobleseed said:

why do people think that Jesus having a son is impossible, when revelation talks about the birth of a child that is not the same as the gospels

It is a description of the Virgin (Virgo) in the Leo (Lion) constellation. It has been backtracked using modern star charts and comes out at 11 Sept 3Bc. An 80 minute widow when Messiah's birth occurred..  "let the heavens declare the Glory of God" is referred to by the apostle meaning just what was observed at the time of Yeshua's birth. "Have you not seen, have you not heard.."

Look it up.

Edited February 6, 2020 by Justin Adams

[angels4u]

6 hours ago, nobleseed said:

why do people think that Jesus having a son is impossible, when revelation talks about the birth of a child that is not the same as the gospels

"What does Revelation chapter 12 mean?"

Answer: In Revelation chapter 12, John sees a vision of a woman "clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars" (Revelation 12:1). Note the similarity between this description and the description that Joseph gave of his father Jacob (Israel) and his mother and their children (Genesis 37:9-11). The twelve stars refer to the twelve tribes of Israel. So the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel.

Additional evidence for this interpretation is that Revelation 12:2-5 speaks of the woman being with child and giving birth. While it is true that Mary gave birth to Jesus, it is also true that Jesus, the son of David from the tribe of Judah, came from Israel. In a sense, Israel gave birth—or brought forth—Christ Jesus. Verse 5 says that the woman’s child was "a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne." Clearly, this is describing Jesus. Jesus ascended to heaven (Acts 1:9-11) and will one day establish His kingdom on earth (Revelation 20:4-6), and He will rule it with perfect judgment (the “rod of iron”; see Psalm 2:7-9).

The woman’s flight into the wilderness for 1,260 days refers to the future time called the Great Tribulation. Twelve hundred, sixty days is 42 months (of 30 days each), which is the same as 3 1/2 years. Halfway through the Tribulation period, the Beast (the Antichrist) will set an image of himself up in the temple that will be built in Jerusalem. This is the abomination that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14. When the Beast does this, he breaks the peace pact he had made with Israel, and the nation has to flee for safety—possibly to Petra (also see Matthew 24; Daniel 9:27). This escape of the Jews is pictured as the woman fleeing into the wilderness.

Revelation 12:12-17 speaks of how the devil will make war against Israel, trying to destroy her (Satan knows his time is short, relatively speaking—see Revelation 20:1-3, 10). It also reveals that God will protect Israel in the wilderness. Revelation 12:14 says Israel will be protected from the devil for "a time, times, and half a time (“a time” = 1 year; “times” = 2 years; “half a time” = one-half year; in other words, 3 1/2 years).https://www.gotquestions.org/Revelation-chapter-12.html

[Jostler]

Jesus is not an adulterer or fornicator.  Simple as that.

[missmuffet]

23 hours ago, nobleseed said:

why do people think that Jesus having a son is impossible, when revelation talks about the birth of a child that is not the same as the gospels

Jesus did not have a child. It is impossible. 

[Heybro]

I am left shaking my head wondering where in the world did they come to this conclusion, got me beat.

[nobleseed]

3 hours ago, Jostler said:

Jesus is not an adulterer or fornicator.  Simple as that.

God had a child through mary, would u accuse him of adultery, Jesus healed without using drugs or surgery, and he who raised the dead could easily raise for himself a son by his spirit

[appy]

You have posted about this multiple of times before in the past and each time many folks as well as myself have told you that the scriptures you have referred to are NOT about procreation period!! All throughout the bible it tells us to put our trust in Jesus to save us from the coming judgment and God's wrath on sin. The implication of Jesus having a son, contradicts God's word in regards to our salvation and eternal life, and the idea of this, in and of itself lends to the impression that it is a mistake for people to put their faith in Jesus to save them because there is another coming.

Jesus' purpose and mission was to redeem mankind through his birth, life, death, and resurrection. His purpose in all this was to reconcile all mankind back to himself. We are called to believe and trust Jesus to save us, now in this lifetime, because we will NOT be given a chance after this life on earth. If what you are purposing were to happen, then there would have been no need for Jesus to come and die on the cross, and our faith in him would be meaningless and no one would be getting into heaven.

This whole nonsense of Jesus having children is very heretical whether it came from gnostic teaching or dan browns novel. And in my opinion, blasphemous. The teaching in and of itself can cause others to disobey God's will. And what is His will? To believe the gospel. Without doing so, we can't get into heaven.