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1 minute ago, Sonshine said:

Hi, friendnt...  “Inherit” is a good word for sure, but if you will research this a little bit, you’ll find it should be “inerrant”—the inerrant Word of God.  No worries, though.  I’ll not argue the point. :)  God bless you.

God's Inerrant Word

“As we examine the pages of Scripture we find that it claims to be the inspired, inerrant Word of God - it is correct in everything that it records.”

Not everything recorded in the bible are the words of God...

We have the words of others...even the words of opposition to God, the words of the Devil...the words of distortion...and besides the words of truth we have the words of falsehood...

We must use discerned...

Even the words of man man's wisdom...

We have many baskets not only one...

 


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On 3/28/2020 at 12:25 PM, Episcopius said:

How bout a sub-debate on 1611 vs 1769 versions?

Wist ye not that archaic English waxed exceeding great when Paul and SILAS first wrote KJV?

 

In Seminary, most, you are required to learn some things about Bibles, sources, manuscripts, and manuscript evidence.

So, you learn that Changing the spelling of a word, from the  17th century's  "king's english" into the later evolved spelling of the same word, is not changing the word... or more importantly, the meaning of the word.

This means, if you have an Original Authorized Version bible, and look at the later KJV with updated  spelling, you'll discover the words are the same....Its just that the F's and S's have been removed from many words and they are now spelled without those letters.     So, its the same bible, no matter which KJV or Authorized Version you have, but the finalized version has been "spell checked".

But THEN, you begin to discover something interesting, as you analyze and compare bibles to bibles...... and that is....... As the years have continued since Luther's bible, and the KJV, and others.........most have been altered in a way that is not related to spelling.  But instead..... they, many, have been retranslated, often using  Greek manuscripts that are not considered authorized.. or "the best" or the earliest known.

Now let me give you a way to think about this...    God is the Word Made Flesh.  God spoke Words and everything began..  If we are saved, then we have confessed with our words, the Lord Jesus.  When we pray, we use words.    So, words matter.  Communication and Timing, in life, are incredibly important.   So, within a Bible, you have words that are Doctrinal, and Words that are Life Generating if they are Believed.   So, if a Bible Creator is a heretic, or worse, a devil, such as the one who created the "Queen James Version" for homosexuals, then you can imagine how much of a Theological Mess this will be when Greek Manuscript  words are changed, and meanings become heretical.

So, do you believe that Jesus is God?  If you do, then you know that this is a NT DOCTRINE. = That Jesus is GOD.    Now, why do we know that?   Its because someone taught you that from a Bible that teaches exactly that, reader.   So, if you have a bible that is full of verses that speak to the Deity of Christ, then you have a bible that is teaching that Christ is God, which is the TRUTH.   But what happens if your  Favorite bible removes a word here, and a word there, that are the center-piece of the verses that prove this Doctrine?   And they do the same thing with many other Doctrines regarding changing or deleting words..  .  So what happens?     What happens is that you have a watered down, diluted, foggy, and confused "bible", and when Believers use these, then what happens to them, Theologically and spiritually?

Let me give you an example.       In a KJV, you have 1 Timothy 3:16.   This is one of the "Deity of Christ" verses that teaches us to understand that Jesus is God come to Earth.   And it says...."GOD was manifested in the FLESH".

So, there you have proof, from a bible that Jesus is come to Earth, and He is GOD.   

But then...... you have many bibles that say this......"HE, was manifested in the Flesh"........"he"......>"he who"?........and you say....>"God".......but no no no, wait !!      See, you only know that because you learned it from a real BIBLE that teaches (in the Verse) that GOD came here as a human.   But what if you didnt know it, and you had no bible that taught that  ""GOD was manifested in the flesh""" ??     = He who ?????

See the problem with "HE", and that BIBLE?   Its removed "GOD" from the verse, Reader, .....and so, .....go check your bible.   And if that verse is messed with, then hundreds more  verses are, also..

And the final question........WHO would want God taken out of His bible?   WHO would want verses that teach the Deity of Christ  changed and altered and in some cases, the entire verse is Gone. ????

Answer.). The Devil.

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2 hours ago, Godismyloveforever said:

Ok. By the way dark chocolate icecream mixed with pistachio icecream is my favorite. 

You "are" my brother from another mother, ...two of my favorites!


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10 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Not everything recorded in the bible are the words of God...

We have the words of others...even the words of opposition to God, the words of the Devil...the words of distortion...and besides the words of truth we have the words of falsehood...

We must use discerned...

Even the words of man man's wisdom...

We have many baskets not only one...

 

So this is where 'accuracy' comes into play. The veracity of what God made sure is preserved for us.

Like the difference between 'fake news' and accurately portraying events. The important difference is the One that oversees the reporting. That One thinks its important for one reason---His integrity and faithfulness is at stake. What He says, must come to pass. The record is a 'witness' in and of itself of the truth and faithfulness of God.

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1 minute ago, Alive said:

Like the difference between 'fake news' and accurately portraying events. The important difference is the One that oversees the reporting. That One thinks its important for one reason---His integrity and faithfulness is at stake. What He says, must come to pass. The record is a 'witness' in and of itself of the truth and faithfulness of God.

Amen brother, ...Isaiah spelled it out for us:

To the law and to the (His) testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20

The Bible is God's "testimony" to us about His Son and what it contains is/are the circumstances in the lives of mankind for the last 6,000 years and He tells us why we "need" Him.

Lord bless

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11 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

The Bible is God’s letter to us.  

You did not address the points in question..

God knows how to communicate and has open the way to communication with us...

We need Jesus to tell us what is under the surface. The disciples on the road to Emmaus..needed Jesus to correctly understand..

Solomon's spoke a lot of good thinks...but he said this is a wise word...pay head to it...


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Amen brother---that is precisely why God made sure of its veracity. It is His Testimony and it is important as a testimony to more than just men.

The entire creation is watching and learning.

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18 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

"the versions that omit Jesus' divinity", 

That's impossible, I have not read all the versions...but this is impossible...cannot have that bad a translation...

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was toward God, and God was the word. All came into being through it, and apart from it not even one thing came into being which has come into being.

Our Father in heaven, Reveal who you are. Set the world right; Do what’s best—    as above, so below.  Keep us alive with three square meals.Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others. Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil. You’re in charge! You can do anything you want! You’re ablaze in beauty!     Yes. Yes. Yes.

 

The first two examples are of removing Jesus' divinity.  Those are from two different translations.  The first one reads as a false god, the second one has not only removed Jesus' divinity, but also that Jesus is a person of the trinity, as well as removing his humanity.  The third one, sounds as if God doesn't know what to do and needs encouragement.

 

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Not everything recorded in the bible are the words of God...

We have the words of others...even the words of opposition to God, the words of the Devil...the words of distortion...and besides the words of truth we have the words of falsehood...

We must use discerned...

Even the words of man man's wisdom...

We have many baskets not only one...

 

2 Timothy 3: 16   All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 


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17 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Amen brother, ...Isaiah spelled it out for us:

To the law and to the (His) testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20

The Bible is God's "testimony" to us about His Son and what it contains is/are the circumstances in the lives of mankind for the last 6,000 years and He tells us why we "need" Him.

Lord bless

This is a good example of how something that Esaias wrote just before Esaias 8:20...

And at verse 8:20 he says specifically about something he said earlier...

To the law and to the (His) testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20....

Lets find out what he had said just before he wrote 8:20...

And hear we see how you quote Esaias as saying

The Bible is God's "testimony" to us about His Son and what it contains is/are the circumstances in the lives of mankind for the last 6,000 years and He tells us why we "need" Him. 

Not this is not Esaias words..."the Bible"...

Essaias never had the "bible is ..." in his mind...Esaias lived hundred of years before the synod who decided to put many books together " the bible"...

Do not quickly distort my words....I did not say anything against Jesus Christ or the scriptures...the Law, the Psalms...and the Prophets the Gospels the apostolic Epistoles...

Only your taking Esaias words to what he said before 8:20....verifying that they were the words of God to him....

And you take them out of their context...applying to something he did not said:...

We need to examine our self for the need to do that in knowledge...

It's a permissive mind with a cause....in knowledge.   

We need the bible as it is...

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Well,the reference is to the Tanakh(Hebrew collection of Scripture) plus the Torah, which many refer to as the Hebrew Bible

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