well someone has it right

[missmuffet]

10 hours ago, ladypeartree said:

New Zealand appears to have acted much faster then the rest of the world and much tougher closing all borders and imposing very strict curfews so they have had less than any other country to deal with and appear to be already coming through the worse 

 

HAVELOCK NORTH, New Zealand —It’s been less than two weeks since New Zealand imposed a coronavirus lockdown so strict that swimming at the beach and hunting in bushland were banned. They’re not essential activities, plus we’ve been told not to do anything that could divert emergency services’ resources. 

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People have been walking and biking strictly in their neighborhoods, lining up six feet apart while waiting to go one-in-one-out into grocery stores, and joining swaths of the world in discovering the vagaries of home schooling.

It took only 10 days for signs that the approach here — “elimination” rather than the “containment” goal of the United States and other Western countries — is working.

he number of new cases has fallen for two consecutive days, despite a huge increase in testing, with 54 confirmed or probable cases reported Tuesday. That means the number of people who have recovered, 65, exceeds the number of daily infections.

“The signs are promising,” Ashley Bloomfield, the director-general of health, said Tuesday.

The speedy results have led to calls to ease the lockdown conditions, even a little, for the four-day Easter holiday, especially as summer lingers on.

But Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is adamant that New Zealand will complete four weeks of lockdown — two full 14-day incubation cycles — before letting up. She has, however, given the Easter Bunny special dispensation to work this weekend.

How has New Zealand, a country I still call home after 20 years abroad, controlled its outbreak so quickly? 

When I arrived here a month ago, traveling from the epicenter of China via the hotspot of South Korea, I was shocked that officials did not take my temperature at the airport. I was told simply to self-isolate for 14 days (I did). 

But with the coronavirus tearing through Italy and spreading in the United States, this heavily tourism-reliant country — it gets about four million international visitors a year, almost as many as its total population — did the previously unthinkable: it shut its borders to foreigners on March 19.

Two days later, Ardern delivered a televised address from her office — the first time since 1982 that an Oval Office-style speech had been given — announcing a coronavirus response alert plan involving four stages, with full lockdown being Level 4.

A group of influential leaders got on the phone with her the following day to urge moving to Level 4.

“We were hugely worried about what was happening in Italy and Spain,” said one of them, Stephen Tindall, founder of the Warehouse, New Zealand’s largest retailer.

“If we didn’t shut down quickly enough, the pain was going to go on for a very long time,” he said in a phone interview. “It’s inevitable that we will have to shut down anyway, so we would rather it be sharp and short.”

On the Monday, March 23, Ardern delivered another statement and gave the country 48 hours to prepare for a Level 4 lockdown. “We currently have 102 cases,” she said. “But so did Italy once.” 

From that Wednesday night, everyone had to stay at home for four weeks unless they worked in an essential job such as health care, or were going to the supermarket or exercising near their home.

A few hours before midnight, my phone sounded a siren as it delivered a text alert: “Act as if you have Covid-19. This will save lives,” it said. “Let’s all do our bit to unite against Covid-19.”

From the earliest stages, Ardern and her team have spoken in simple language: Stay home. Don’t have contact without anyone outside your household “bubble.” Be kind. We’re all in this together. 

I have been going out to do the essentials. I am well 

[LadyKay]

4 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

But before COVID-19, we had the socialists advocating open borders.  What kind of mess would we be in if socialists had been in charge?

You all must get your information from some place unknown to me. Because I never heard anything about the socialist wanting open borders. ?

[Neighbor]

 

2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I have been going out to do the essentials. I am well 

More information than I need to know!

[Neighbor]

22 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

You all must get your information from some place unknown to me. Because I never heard anything about the socialist wanting open borders. ?

Geopolitics for  20 Alec.

What socialist leads a worldwide network for universal access by all to every country leaving no borders that cannot be crossed by anyone?

Who is George Soros?

[Neighbor]

11 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

But before COVID-19, we had the socialists advocating open borders.  What kind of mess would we be in if socialists had been in charge?

I think they have been  ever since Theodore Roosevelt.

[LadyKay]

27 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I think they have been  ever since Theodore Roosevelt.

Well thank goodness the borders got closed or else that Covid-19 would be here.   Oh wait.......uh....well...nevermind. 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, LadyKay said:

You all must get your information from some place unknown to me. Because I never heard anything about the socialist wanting open borders. ?

That must be because you are located in a Galaxy far away!  ?  Seriously, former communist now socialist and Democrat Bernie Sanders and AOC have been talking about open borders for several years.  It's not a secret among Democrats.

[LadyKay]

2 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

That must be because you are located in a Galaxy far away!  ?  Seriously, former communist now socialist and Democrat Bernie Sanders and AOC have been talking about open borders for several years.  It's not a secret among Democrats.

Well anyway. Back to the topic and my whole point(which was not to debate who wants borders open and who wants them closes)  My point being the US is nowhere as strict on it's "stay at home order" as other countries. Even with what the US has done, you still got people shouting that their rights are being taken and this is a communist/socialist take over!  I would question it too I guess. But I have family working in health care who tell me what is going on. So yeah, this thing is real.  But take a look at some of the replies here on Worthy. You still got people claiming  conspiracy theories screaming about their rights! Anyway, that was my whole point. 

[LonerAndy]

On 4/7/2020 at 3:05 PM, ladypeartree said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/new-zealand-isnt-just-flattening-the-curve-its-squashing-it/ar-BB12h1gC?ocid=spartanntp

Obviously the smaller the population, and the tighter the controls, and the more homogeneous and compliant the population, the more likely you are to have success.

We have a rebellious multi-cultural society, that rejects authority, and has an "I can do whatever I want" attitude.

Additionally, the problem with the lock down in NZ, is that it only works as long as there is a lock down.

I'll make a prediction, and openly hope I am wrong... the moment they release this lock down, Corona infects will spike up.

The only way to actually prevent the spread of Corona, is to have a permanent lock-down indefinitely.  And you just can't do that.

[LadyKay]

26 minutes ago, LonerAndy said:

I'll make a prediction, and openly hope I am wrong... the moment they release this lock down, Corona infects will spike up.

I think they ideal behind it is to not overload the health care system all at once. Which is the issue we have here going on with not enough ventilators.