Prayer Is a Dialogue

[Willa]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

God is perfect. 

Jesus is God in flesh, I believe. He was showing us the way.

Are you trying to trap me? Jesus said said only God is good (Mark 10:18), so only God is good.

God has given us his righteousness?  He will forgive us, but we need to repent of our sin. Why? Because Jesus told us to (Matt 4:17).

 Phl 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: Phl 3:10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

 2Co 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

That means that when Jesus went to the cross He took our sins upon Himself and gave us His perfect righteousness in exchange.  This is another treasure in heaven that brings me to my knees.  

[Willa]

22 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Until you develop a personal relationship with the Lord, I don't think you will find the way. Pray constantly (1 Thess 5:17).

Many of us have personal relationships with God.  They may differ according to our gifts, our level of maturity in Christ, and even according to our personalities.  This is one of the situations were the knee cannot tell the hand that we have no need of it.  Each of us is a treasure in God' economy.  

[johnthebaptist]

9 hours ago, Willa said:

 Phl 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: Phl 3:10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

 2Co 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

That means that when Jesus went to the cross He took our sins upon Himself and gave us His perfect righteousness in exchange.  This is another treasure in heaven that brings me to my knees.  

Jesus commanded us to repent of our sin (Matt 4:17).

[kwikphilly]

20 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

21 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I could listen to David Jeremiah for hours,he's not only a teacher of sound doctrine but he just exudes Peace,Love & Joy-Praise Jesus!

I will have to check him out.

Do,I think you might really enjoy listening to him jtb   I'm a very high gear person,I go at about 200mph most the time (if you get what I'm saying) So as much as I can enjoy a high energy,passionate, preacher I can't listen for too long,I'll start jumping out of my shoes,lol   David Jeremiah has a very serene,tranquil,soothing voice-calming & comforting....

                                                                                 Hope you like hearing him,Kwik

[kwikphilly]

15 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Paul wasn't God and shouldn't be treated as such, but he was a great man, and we can learn a lot from him.

Thaat's right jtb,Paul was not God,nobody is saying that-what we are saying is the WORD (s) he spoke(& wrote) were/are  Gods Word......and he was not a great man,he was a great sinner,an ordinary man just like you & I that God did EXTRAORDINARY things with to Glorify our GREAT GOD!

   We can learn much from Paul & another the wonderful thing about Paul was that he was always very clear to point out when he was giving his own opinion

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1 Corinthians 7:6-7 King James Version (KJV)

⁶ But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

⁷ For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

This was "his" advice,of course he thought Jesus Return was imminent...in any event,he didn't leave you guessing 

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, kwikphilly said:

Thaat's right jtb,Paul was not God,nobody is saying that-what we are saying is the WORD (s) he spoke(& wrote) were/are  Gods Word......and he was not a great man,he was a great sinner,an ordinary man just like you & I that God did EXTRAORDINARY things with to Glorify our GREAT GOD!

   We can learn much from Paul & another the wonderful thing about Paul was that he was always very clear to point out when he was giving his own opinion

This was "his" advice,of course he thought Jesus Return was imminent...in any event,he didn't leave you guessing 

The Bible isn't God. It points us TOWARDS God. 

[warrior12]

20 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Until you develop a personal relationship with the Lord, I don't think you will find the way. Pray constantly (1 Thess 5:17).

Every man has to first know his heart and be true to it and his relationship is between he and his maker.   You cannot know my intimate relationship with God and how it is developed and lived. That is a very personal matter.  

What we can know is how the word of God and yes the HOLY BIBLE , [all of it is  the word of God], is presented for us here to dialogue and find comparison or disagreement.  This is  human relationship.  Having said that, in the topics you posted, you seem to have mistrust in the very book that God has by his divine powers given us as his truth.   

So, now you have doubts about the prophets and Apostles that he himself appointed to do his work .  Every man has to bow the nee to his authority and though all the writers of the books and letters are not here, they have penned their words with the approval of the Lord.  

Yes, we can go into all kind of history to see who wrote what and whose interpretation is correct ect, but it all comes down to faith and if you BELIEVE , that the entire bible is indeed the word of God, regardless if you disagree with the contents or not.

Your contentions of the great Apostle Paul and his writings as not being equal to Jesus is of no argument, as the entire bible is of God approval and for our instructions as believers to navigate through the Christian walk till we are called home.  The bible is our map for living the Christian life and without it, we would be lost indeed as to learning and following the ways God intended for his children to live.

You are threading on a dangerous pathways,  by picking and choosing and judging the contents of those appointed to write what God has instructed them to.  You can either believe that God instructed or as bible believers would say inspired, it is the same thing.   

Yes, God alone is perfect, but he has given men authority to do and say things with his permissions, like the prophets and Apostles .   He has given this account to us, to cherish and keep upon our hearts.  You can say that his words alone is perfect, and that is your prerogative, but his word, the entire bible stands as our lesson book.  

You mistrust the writings of Paul and maybe others too, but that is to your peril.  

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by warrior12

[johnthebaptist]

42 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Every man has to first know his heart and be true to it and his relationship is between he and his maker.   You cannot know my intimate relationship with God and how it is developed and lived. That is a very personal matter.  

What we can know is how the word of God and yes the HOLY BIBLE , [all of it is  the word of God], is presented for us here to dialogue and find comparison or disagreement.  This is  human relationship.  Having said that, in the topics you posted, you seem to have mistrust in the very book that God has by his divine powers given us as his truth.   

So, now you have doubts about the prophets and Apostles that he himself appointed to do his work .  Every man has to bow the need to his authority and though all the writers of the books and letters are not here, they have penned their words with the approval of the Lord.  

Yes, we can go into all kind of history to see who wrote what and whose interpretation is correct ect, but it all comes down to faith and if you BELIEVE , that the entire bible is indeed the word of God, regardless if you disagree with the contents or not.

Your contentions of the great Apostle Paul and his writings as not being equal to Jesus is of no argument, as the entire bible is of God approval and for our instructions as believers to navigate through the Christian walk till we are called home.  The bible is our map for living the Christian life and without it, we would be lost indeed as to learning and following the ways God intended for his children to live.

You are threading on a dangerous pathways,  by picking and choosing and judging the contents of those appointed to write what God has instructed them to.  You can either believe that God instructed or as bible believers would say inspired, it is the same thing.   

Yes, God alone is perfect, but he has given men authority to do and say things with his permissions, like the prophets and Apostles .   He has given this account to us, to cherish and keep upon our hearts.  You can say that his words alone is perfect, and that is your prerogative, but his word, the entire bible stands as our lesson book.  

You mistrust the writings of Paul and maybe others too, but that is to your peril.  

 

I cannot know another person's relationship with the Lord unless he makes it clear he has no interest in such a relationship.

[Logostician]

To me prayer is mostly talking to Jesus as a friend.  I don't rehearse what I say or follow a script.  It's good to say the Lord's Prayer over the course of a lifetime though, because it is the perfect prayer of "ACTS" = adoration, confession, thanksgiving, and supplication.  But these things can be accomplished in our own prayers as well.  I think Jesus wants it to be an ongoing personal dialogue.

Alot of times we are just thinking about Jesus.  Maybe what he would do, or what he would want us to do.  That could be the Spirit of God praying for us, and doing a far better job of it, than we can do alone.  With the indwelling Spirit of God we can truly pray without ceasing.  The Spirit of God never sleeps.

But there is really no wrong way to pray.  If you're seeking Jesus, you're on the right path.  Praying with and for others is also powerful, and is the essence of what a church is, people coming together in the name of God.

[Behold]

8 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

The Bible isn't God. It points us TOWARDS God. 

Let me ask you 2 questions, and then i'll show you some more truth.

Q.) Do you LOVE the word of God?  That is the bible.   Do you love it?   If not, why not?

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The Bible is the word of God.

Jesus is the WORD of God.

Jesus is the Living Word.

The Bible is the living words of God.

The words in the  Bible are Light and Truth, and Jesus is THE Truth.

The longest verse in the Bible says that the words of God are exalted Higher then the Name of Jesus, and "the Name of Jesus is above every name".

Salvation comes by hearing the words that are found in a bible..  "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God". The word of God is the Bible.

We understand that Jesus exists and the Cross was raised because words in a BIBLE are the literal History of this Truth.

We understand that GOD created it all, because of words in a BIBLE that teach this TRUTH.

We understand that Jesus is RISEN< because words in a BIBLE informed the Encyclopedia and WIKIPEDIA.

If there was no BIBLE, you would not even know that there was a GOD to worship and a Jesus to ADORE and BELIEVE IN.

If you are a born again Christian, its only because the words in a BIBLE came to you and you believed the WORDS.

The "seed" of the word, are the words in the bible.

The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and men just wrote it down.

The Light of God is both the Lord and the words of God. (Bible).

Edited April 20, 2020 by Behold