BIG, BIG NEWS: RESURRECTION AND RAPTURE ON MARCH 14, 2023?

[Revelation Man]

6 hours ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

Revelation Man, I think that we will be able to make a good guess at the very day of the resurrection and rapture, which I think are only about 3 years away. I take the 2300 evenings and mornings of the daily sacrifice--1 lamb in the evening and 1 lamb in the morning--in Daniel 8 as referring to the sacrifices which the Sanhedrin are trying to start in Jerusalem right now. Once started, they will last 2300 evenings and mornings until the Jewish Antichrist stops them in the middle of the last 7 years of the 6th millennium (after 14 billion years, with no macro-evolution), ending in 2030. If he stops them on the same day that he kills Moses and Elijah, who will preach Christ in Jerusalem for 1260 days, that tells me that the resurrection and rapture will happen 2300-1260=1040 days after the daily sacrifices start, at the same time that Moses and Elijah descend from heaven to Jerusalem.

The 2300 is actually 1150 days. You have to restudy that one brother. Its 2300 Evening AND Mornings. 

[Montana Marv]

Harold Camping was wrong numerous times, this also is most likely wrong.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

11 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The 2300 is actually 1150 days. You have to restudy that one brother. Its 2300 Evening AND Mornings. 

Revelation Man, we can agree to disagree. In my mind, it is referring to 2300 sunsets and 2300 sunrises, 2300 days. It is the daily sacrifices that are being written about here--1 lamb in the evening and 1 lamb in the morning. They are like the days of the Genesis prologue: "And there was evening and there was morning, one day. They are also like the days of Daniel 12:11,12.

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

11 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Harold Camping was wrong numerous times, this also is most likely wrong.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Montana Marv, note that the title of this thread had a question mark at the end of it. Nobody "knows" the day and the hour of the resurrection and rapture, but I believe that we will have a very good "guess" at the very day, based on when the daily sacrifices start in Jerusalem and, it appears, that they soon will. The May 8 date for the second Passover sacrifice got cancelled, but I'm sure that the Sanhedrin will try again very soon, perhaps as early as Pentecost. Watch what happens there.

God bless,

Clive

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

Montana Marv, note that the title of this thread had a question mark at the end of it. Nobody "knows" the day and the hour of the resurrection and rapture, but I believe that we will have a very good "guess" at the very day, based on when the daily sacrifices start in Jerusalem and, it appears, that they soon will. The May 8 date for the second Passover sacrifice got cancelled, but I'm sure that the Sanhedrin will try again very soon, perhaps as early as Pentecost. Watch what happens there.

God bless,

Clive

Camping had a lot of very good guesses. Will you have those who follow what you say to sell all they have and prepare for the day. Sell all. Sell all.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[The Light]

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

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I misstated what it is, the 6th Seal/Joel 2 Event actually is the 1st Trump through the 4th Trump. 

The 1st four trumps have nothing to do with the 6th seal. The 1st four trumps are the beginning of sorrows

Matt 24

⁵ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

⁶ And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows.

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As I pointed out, if you actually would read my replies instead of just replying {Something I would never do}

I read all of your replies. Sometimes I have trouble grasping what you mean as some don't agree with the written Word. It's hard to see how you draw such conclusions.

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the Seals are not ACTIONABLE.....SEE THAT ?

No, I don't see that at all. This appears to be one of those things where you draw a conclusion that does not agree with the word of God.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Seals are not ACTIONABLE, meaning the Parchment of Judgments can not be read aloud until ALL 7 Seals are broken.

As I said, what you are saying does not agree with the word of God. This is just something that you have concluded because you can't figure out the timeline. Here we see what happens when ONE of the seals is opened. Then we see what will happens when the second seal is opened. All 7 seals did not have to opened for action of the seal that is opened to take place. That's like saying all 7 seven trumpets have have to be blown before the 1st trumpet can be blown. Makes no sense and does not agree with the Word. You should rethink the 7 seals and the 7 trumpets.

Rev 6

6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

² And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

³ And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

⁴ And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Rich Kings would place 2 or 3 Seals on a letter to someone if it was top secret. They did that so no one could read the content until ALL THE SEALS were Broken. So As Jesus breaks the 1st Seal he says the Anti-Christ {White Horse Conqueror} is coming over a 42 month time period.

No, that's not what the 1st seal says. The 1st seal has nothing whatsoever to do with a 42 month period. This is something that you have incorrectly concluded.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Red Horse of War is the same Anti-Christ, he brings War for 42 months,

 

Again. You are incorrectly concluding that these wars have anything to do with 42 months.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

the Black Horse Jesus prophesies will bring FAMINE for 42 months and the Pale Green Horse will bring Death/Sickness of a 42 month period of time,

 

Where in the world are you coming up with 42 months again and again and again, in the beginning of sorrows?

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

these are all Prophetic uttering's of Jesus, opening the Seals in Heaven, just before they COME TO PASS at the beginning of the DOTL {Trump Judgments}. 

The seals 1-6 are the time of Jacobs trouble, the tribulation. It concludes with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The 5th Seal foretells of many Martyrs over a 42 Month period,

Again with the 42 months. The 5th seal has nothing whatsoever to do with 42 months. Where do you come up with this?

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

and the 6th Seal FORETELLS of an Asteroid plunging into the earths Atmosphere, kicking off the Day of the Lord as foretold in Joel ch. 2, and in Rev. ch. 6. So the Seals are not ACTIONABLE, they are Prophetic uttering's about what is coming when this Asteroid HITS EARTH !!

The seals are not actionable, they are prophetic utterings? This is just something you have incorrectly concluded because you can't get your timeline to work. The first four seals are the beginning of sorrows.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

1st Trump = the Fire coming in before the Asteroid hits {burning grasses and trees}. The 2nd Trump is the MOUNTAIN being cast into the Sea taking out a 1/3 of everything in the world OR The Americas in our hemisphere. The 3rd Trump is the Star falling to earth, the same Asteroid will be seen as a Ball of fire plunging to earth. I think John was shown it will be a gigantic Rock/Mountain and then shown it coming in HOT like a star would look. The Darkens the Sun, Moon and Stars, so I assume this impact has a huge plume of smoke that darkens the Sun, Moon and Stars and thus the 1st-4th Trumps are actually the Day of the Lord event described in Joel 2 and in Rev. 6. 

Joel 2

³¹ The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

Can you not understand that what you are saying is impossible. You are saying the 1st four trumpets are the day of the Lord events described in Joel 2 and Rev 6, and yet Joel 2 says that the sun turns into darkness and the moon to blood BEFORE the day of the Lord.

What you are saying is impossible and does not agree with what the Word of God says. Have you ever tried just putting things where God says they go, instead of where you think they have to go because you don't understand. So please forget all that you are concluding about the seals and the trumpets and start going by what God says. He says that the sun is darkened BEFORE the day of the Lord. Therefore, the 1st 4 trumps cannot be the 6th seal. It's impossible.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

 If Joel 2 can be Prophetic why can't Rev. 6 be Prophetic ? Pssttt, it is,

Well you got this part right, but it has nothing to do with the 1st 4 trumps being the 6th seal.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

and that is why some people confuse all the Seals, Trumps and Vials as being the same event. I think the Seals DESCRIBE the coming Trump events, at least the 6th Sea does,

As I have shown, impossible.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

the other 5 Seals describe the coming Beasts 42 month rule on earth.

The 5 seals have nothing whatsoever to do with 42 months.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

That just a parable,

Just a parable? So parables mean nothing? You need to rethink.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

the Three Feasts Jesus fulfilled were Spring Feasts.........

Agreed. There. That was hard.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

.we are now in the Harvest Feast of Summer...........

Only if the harvest occurs.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Three Remaining Feasts are all Fall Feasts.

Agreed. Whoa. I'm getting light headed.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The LAST TRUMP always ended the Harvest {Feast of Trumps}.

The last trump ends the fall fruit harvest.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

 

The Harvest happens in the Spring and Summer, it's pretty much all alone on the calendar, just like the Church Age is.

That would be the barley and wheat harvest.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

However, the Harvest was started by Israel {Spring Harvest}

No, neither the spring or early summer harvest has anything to do with Israel. They have to do with the Church. The harvest for Israel will come in the fall fruit harvest.

Jer 8

²⁰ The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

then came the Summer Harvest, that we are in now,

The summer harvest has not come. It will come with the rapture of the Church, when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

and the Feast of Trump ENDS the Summer Harvest,

No, Pentecost is the early summer harvest. The wheat harvest.

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

it never ends the Spring Harvest brother. We are in the Gentile Harvesting Period {Summer Harvest}.

The spring harvest is the barley harvest.

And the dead Christ will rise first.

 

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Verse 18 is about the EVIL TARES, not the Wheat which is Israel. 

Verse 18 is about the fall fruit harvest. The wheat harvest will be over before the fall fruit harvest. When the wheat harvest, the early summer harvest, is over, Israel is not saved.

Jer 8

²⁰ The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

Part of Israel will have it blindness removed when the wheat harvest occurs.

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

3 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Camping had a lot of very good guesses. Will you have those who follow what you say to sell all they have and prepare for the day. Sell all. Sell all.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Montana Marv, I am not Harold Camping. I am humble enough to know that I could be wrong about any "guess" at the day of the resurrection and rapture. I won't be encouraging anybody to do anything specific. If I am correct about these daily sacrifices starting, I plan to go to my parents' graves with 2 of my brothers on the expected day and, hopefully, see them both ascend into heaven before us. Whether I sell anything beforehand is another question. I've got at least 1 son who is not a Christian yet--maybe leave my worldly goods to him.

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

3 hours ago, ChickenCoop said:

Now is a good time. 

               

ChickenCoop, now is good time, but I'm afraid that we have about 3 years to wait. Watch what happens with the sacrifices in Jerusalem.

[iamlamad]

On 4/27/2020 at 7:01 AM, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

Debp, of course I don't "know" the day and the hour, but I have a good "guess." I'm not the One Who has recorded in scripture the passages about 2300 days and 1260 days. They certainly give a very strong indication of the day, but at least 1 assumption is made: that the Jewish Antichrist kills Moses and Elijah on the same day that he stops the sacrifices. Rounding of numbers can also be involved, so I do not know the day, but as I wrote: it will be bang on or very close. I actually calculated that the sacrifices would start on May 8, 2020 if the Lord returns on the Sunday after Passover in 2030 before this story came out.

The truth is, the two witnesses suddenly appear right where John first mentions them, just 3.5 days before the midpoint of the week. They testify for 1260 days, which will take them to just 3 1/2 days before the end of the week. They are then killed and lay dead those 3 1/2 days are are resurrected with all the rest of the Old Testament saints: at the 7th vial that ends the week. 

the Sacrifices are stopped at the abomination that will divide the week, so at that moment in time, the two witnesses will have been witnessing for only 3 1/2 days. 

Note carefully: 11:4 through 11:14 are written as a parenthesis with no bearing on chronology.  It only appears that they die before the 7th trumpet. Their 1260 days is parallel with all the other mentions of the 3.5 year period of time. 

[iamlamad]

On 4/27/2020 at 4:40 AM, Justin Adams said:

Not to worry. God is still in control. No rapture, so do not preach stuff you do not know about please...

If you don't want to go, just say so. The rest of the church will rise up and be escorted to heaven, while you remain behind. I hope your theory works out for you. 

There are two good verses that pertain to believers left behind (or new believers after): that is that you will be overcome. Probably the wisest thing to do, rather than wait until you are very thirsty, is just turn yourself in. They will probably give you a choice to deny Christ,  worship the image and take the mark, or lose your head.