Jesus vs Michael

[Rosenberg57]

14 minutes ago, OneLight said:

May I suggest you begin reading the thread from the very beginning and see for yourself.

I have read it from the beginning.

That is why I asked him to speak plainly.

 

[Heybro]

On 6/14/2020 at 8:38 AM, R. Hartono said:

Mikhail was sent to take Moses's body from grave.

R. Hartono, please please, before you put your thoughts on the forum, can I humbly suggest that you quote only what is written in The Bible. Deut 34: 5-6, state, "So Moses the servant of The Lord died there in the land of Moab according to the word of The Lord. 6. And He(God) buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-Peor; but no-one knows his grave to this day.  So, respectfully, anything other than what scripture says, is only speculation at best, and should not be bandied about as truth. It only leads to confusion and may be detrimental to someones faith, God bless.

[OneLight]

15 hours ago, Rosenberg57 said:

I have read it from the beginning.

That is why I asked him to speak plainly.

 

I can see in his words him plainly stating that Jesus is not Michael and that Jehovah Witnesses are not teaching the truth.  I don't see him "selling" anything.  Maybe I am missing something here.  Can you show me where he is confusing and/or selling something?

[Daniel Marsh]

Since I was asked what I am trying to sell before.   I think that is just his sense of humor when he has nothing to say at the time to keep the discussion going. 

[grahampaul]

On 6/14/2020 at 5:57 PM, Daniel Marsh said:

The Assumption of Moses reads, 

"

106 ORIGINAL ASSUMPTION OF MOSES 

the action in the original Assumption was probably as 
follows : 

i. Michael is commissioned to bury Moses : 

ii. Satan opposes his burial, and that on two grounds 

(a) First, he claims to be the lord of matter (hence the 
body rightfully should be handed over to him). 

To this claim Michael rejoins : " The Lord rebuke thee, 
for it was God s Spirit that created the world and all 
mankind." (Hence not Satan, but God was the Lord 
of matter.) (b) Secondly, Satan brings the charge of 
murder against Moses. (The answer to this charge is 
wanting.) 

iii. Having rebutted Satan s accusations, Michael then 
proceeds to charge Satan with having inspired the serpent 
to tempt Adam and Eve. 

iv. Finally, all opposition having been overcome, the 
Assumption takes place in the presence of Joshua and 
Caleb, and in a very peculiar way. A twofold presenta 
tion of Moses appears : one is Moses " living in the 
spirit," which is carried up to heaven ; the other is the 
dead body of Moses, which is buried in the recesses of 
the mountains. 

This sketch is founded, as we have observed, on quota 
tions and references occurring in St. Jude and subse 
quent writers. We shall now reproduce it in the actual 
phraseology of these writers. "   https://archive.org/stream/assumptionofmose00unknuoft/assumptionofmose00unknuoft_djvu.txt

 

I think the real reason was for Satan to tempt Israelites to worship Moses' Body.

 

assumption aside,your probably right.

[Daniel Marsh]

19 minutes ago, grahampaul said:

assumption aside,your probably right.

I read it in The Quarterly journal of prophecy, Volume 17 1865

https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=avcDAAAAQAAJ&rdid=book-avcDAAAAQAAJ&rdot=1

https://books.google.com/books?id=avcDAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA2-PA314&lpg=RA2-PA314&dq=moses+satan+hero+worship&source=bl&ots=oiaaO-bzoG&sig=ACfU3U1gnf5YEuLwXb4_KhyaFIRgfvZmJA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibmfD8j4XqAhVGKawKHWw_DloQ6AEwB3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk0020uqG3qi1AJcQblXqEj9MM4vWOw%3A1592269514581&source=hp&ei=yhroXoXkIIWOsQX6wq-IDA&q=The+Quarterly+journal+of+prophecy&oq=The+Quarterly+journal+of+prophecy&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQDFDTEljTEmD5HWgAcAB4AIABiQGIAYkBkgEDMC4xmAEAoAECoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiF8bOWkoXqAhUFR6wKHXrhC8EQ4dUDCA0