The 6th Seal does not literally darken the sun.

[missmuffet]

On 6/29/2020 at 9:58 PM, R. Hartono said:

Many people take the wrong conclusion that the 6th Seal opening will make the sun extinct /goes out completely.

^{Rev 6 12} And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.

The question is, how can a great earthquake on earth put out the sun completely ? Many earthquake happens on earth and has nothing to do with the sun howbeit it causes the sun to goes out/extinct completely ?

THE 6TH SEAL EARTHQUAKE COULD DESCRIBE THE VOLCANIC ERUPTION (JOHN DIDNT KNOW THIS TERM) WHICH HAPPENS GLOBALLY AT THE RING OF FIRE AND PROBABLY INCLUDING SUPER VOLCANIC ERUPTION LIKE THE YELLOW STONE.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tectonic_plates_and_ring_of_fire.png

THE MOON BECAME AS BLOOD IS THE SIGN THAT THE SUN IS ABSOLUTELY STILL SHINING.

Do you know the bloodmoon phenomenon which happens repeteadly from time to time ? And do you know what is causing the moon to look RED ? Its the sunshine biased by the atmosphere !!! It means without the sunshine there will be no bloodmoon.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/blood-moon.html

SO THE SUN IS ABSOLUTELY STILL SHINING WHEN THE 6TH SEAL IS OPENED, HOWEVER, JOHN HAS DESCRIBED THE DISASTER OF THE ATMOSPHERE SO HORRIBLE DUE TO THE VOLCANIC ERUPTION :

^{Rev 6 14} And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together : What John saw was that super volcanic eruption which create massive shockwaves of typical black clouds eruption blasted by the high pressure totally rushed the sky like HURRICANE as if it departed like a scroll AND TOTAL DARKNESS CLOUD COVERING THE EARTH MAKE THE SUN LOOKED LIKE SACKCLOTH.

It doesnt mean the sky vanished because the earth stood on the empty sky/space, if the space disappears where will it be ?

..........and every mountain and island were moved out of their places : All continent will be affected greatly especially those near the volcanic eruption. This calamity will therefore force the people to evacuate their cities to the dens and mountains :

^{Rev 6 15} And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

THIS WILL BEGIN THE WRATH OF GOD WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE 7 TRUMPETS AND 7 VIALS AS SOON AS THIS CALAMITY OF THE 6TH SEAL TAKES PLACE :

^{Rev 6 17} For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

¹³ And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind, THIS MAY BE METEOR SHOWER OR MAY BE THE VOLCANIC STONES THROWN INTO THE DARK ATMOSPHERE BY THE MASSIVE SUPER VOLCANIC AND GLOBAL ERUPTION.

John's definition of stars is absolutely different than ours, our sun is only a small star compared to other stars in universe.

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-a-supervolcano-what-a-supereruption?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products

When the sun is darkened it is written exactly as being darkened :

Rev 8:12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

How can one third of the sun being darkened if thats already extinct by the 6th seal opening ? Does it make sense ?

The extinction of the sun will suddenly plunge the world into total darkness of ice age, it Will be like planet Pluto -240 Celcius degree n the sea will be frozen like the north and south pole, which is totally impossible to carry on the living in the Great Tribulation.

 

The 6th seal should be taken literally.

[R. Hartono]

6 hours ago, Diaste said:

FE explains all that in dozens of YouTube vids.

Without a single authentic picture n without a single confirmation from austronauts around the world.

[R. Hartono]

6 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The 6th seal should be taken literally.

You are free to say ur opinion.

[Diaste]

8 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Without a single authentic picture n without a single confirmation from austronauts around the world.

What can I say? I'm just saying I have questions that go unanswered. 

[abcdef]

22 hours ago, missmuffet said:

The 6th seal should be taken literally.

Hi missmuffet,

Why do you say that it must be taken literally?

Where is the scripture that says that it should be taken literally?

1 Cor 2:14 says that the things of the Spirit of God are spiritually discerned.

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Is there no symbolism the theses verses at all? None?

Maybe there is some, symbolism.

What does an earthquake symbolize? What does the number "6" mean? When the heavens depart as a scroll, no symbolism there?

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[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, abcdef said:

Hi missmuffet,

Why do you say that it must be taken literally?

Where is the scripture that says that it should be taken literally?

1 Cor 2:14 says that the things of the Spirit of God are spiritually discerned.

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Is there no symbolism the theses verses at all? None?

Maybe there is some, symbolism.

What does an earthquake symbolize? What does the number "6" mean? When the heavens depart as a scroll, no symbolism there?

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Reading scripture literally whenever possible is the only way to determine what God is trying to tell us. We can not give scripture our own meaning. That is not what God intended. We are to correctly handle the Word of God.

 

 

[R. Hartono]

6 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Reading scripture literally whenever possible is the only way to determine what God is trying to tell us. We can not give scripture our own meaning. That is not what God intended. We are to correctly handle the Word of God.

 

 

If the sun died the temperature will drop like the planet Pluto -240 Celcius degree, no living forms will survive n theres no need for punishment with 7 trumpets n 7 Vials.

[R. Hartono]

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

When the heavens depart as a scroll, no symbolism there?

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Im sure John refer to our socalled atmosphere, John didnt know the space is exactly empty did he ? Depart as a scroll cud mean rolling black hurricane.

Edited July 14, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Uriah]

On 7/13/2020 at 4:06 AM, Diaste said:

What can I say? I'm just saying I have questions that go unanswered. 

Video moved to the video forum.

[Diaste]

15 hours ago, Uriah said:

video moved to video section

I've watched vids from both sides, many of them. One thing I don't care for is the ad homs. Anytime that seems to be a part of the rebuttal I tune out after I have a good laugh.