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[Your closest friendnt]

preach Jesus Christ crucified for the forgiveness of our sins,

and raised from the dead and ascended into Heaven

the only way to the Heavenly Father and

the blessing and fellowship of the Holy Spirit...Amen...

[Fidei Defensor]

12 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

preach Jesus Christ crucified for the forgiveness of our sins,

and raised from the dead and ascended into Heaven

the only way to the Heavenly Father and

the blessing and fellowship of the Holy Spirit...Amen...

What are you trying to say? It reads like an evangelistic post. 

Jesus is God, is our Savior, is Son of God who is One with the Father and Holy Spirit.,

Edited July 27, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, Fidei Defensor said:

What are you trying to say? It reads like an evangelistic post. 

Jesus is God, is our Savior, is Son of God who is One with the Father and Holy Spirit.,

It's ethical to say....I do not agree with this and that...and this is the reason why....and give a scripture reference...

And if it happens that both parties put forward scriptural support...then look at the context ...the relevance...if it was written before the Cross..and to whom...does it applies in our times...is it a Salvation issue...who said it...was he at a mature walk with God...

Did he said something different before or after that suggest continuous growth...reliability...the strength of the statement and the culture of the author. 

Read the bible with your own mind...

[Fidei Defensor]

O God the Father, God the Son

Verse 1
O God the Father, God the Son
And Holy Ghost, blest Three in one, Receive all the offering we bring In Christian love, we do this Lord.

Verse 2
Grant that the light of Thy word give Understanding to young and old;
The word that saves our soul from sin, Plant in the heart of every one.

Verse 3
Here, let Jesus shew forth His pow'r In turning darkness into light
And open wide the door of love
That leads to blessings up on high.

Verse 4
O Jesus Christ, our Lord and Prince The saints fall down and worship Thee; Receive the praise-offering we bring And let Thy glory fill this house. Free Music resources from

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[Fidei Defensor]

Father, I adore You (LAPPY #67)

Father, I adore You, Lay my life before you, how I love you.
Jesus, I adore You, Lay my life before you, how I love you.
Spirit, I adore You, Lay my life before you, how I love you.

©Copyright 1972, Maranatha! Music, Terrye Coelho Strom

[Heleadethme]

On 7/20/2020 at 7:31 AM, Justin Adams said:

I did not say that particularly. They are not my words. I was referring to a writing about cessationism (see link at the bottom of the page). Read very carefully what 'replacement theology' really entails.

I do not agree with replacement ideas. So I posted that.

 

I don't agree with a thing called replacement theology either.......the Lord gave me to understand that the church, being the body of Christ/messiah, is Israel's fulfillment, not replacement....through the new birth and by no other way, because there just doesn't exist any other way.  In the end when she turns again to the Lord, it will be through Christ/messiah, through faith in Him, through being born again of the Holy Spirit, that she will finally be grafted back into her own tree, which she is for now still largely cut off from.  You know, I even believe that the falling away that we are now witnessing at the end of the age is making room on that tree for the natural branches.  Though it's not a matter of waiting until the return of Jesus, since Jewish souls are sadly perishing every day as we speak, without Him.  They need the gospel now.

[Fidei Defensor]

3 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

I don't agree with a thing called replacement theology either.......the Lord gave me to understand that the church, being the body of Christ/messiah, is Israel's fulfillment, not replacement....through the new birth and by no other way, because there just doesn't exist any other way.  In the end when she turns again to the Lord, it will be through Christ/messiah, through faith in Him, through being born again of the Holy Spirit, that she will finally be grafted back into her own tree, which she is for now still largely cut off from.  You know, I even believe that the falling away that we are now witnessing at the end of the age is making room on that tree for the natural branches.  Though it's not a matter of waiting until the return of Jesus, since Jewish souls are sadly perishing every day as we speak, without Him.  They need the gospel now.

Replacement Theology is really called Fufillment Theology. That Jew and Gentile are saved through faith in Jesus Christ alone:

 “22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men, (1 Corinthians 1:22-25),

“23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed.
24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,
26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. - (Galatians 3:23-29)

“2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,
4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.” (Romans 8:2-5)

“For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.” (Hebrews 9:15) 

For the Lord God foretold to the Prophet Jeremiah when a new covenant would come: 

“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
    “when I will make a new covenant(A)
with the people of Israel
    and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant(B)
    I made with their ancestors(C)
when I took them by the hand
    to lead them out of Egypt,(D)
because they broke my covenant,
    though I was a husband(E)to[a] them,[b]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
    after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds(F)
    and write it on their hearts.(G)
I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.(H)
34 No longer will they teach(I)their neighbor,
    or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know(J)me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive(K) their wickedness
    and will remember their sins(L) no more.” (Jeremiah 31:31-34) 

“But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.” (Hebrews 8:6) 

“By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.” (Hebrews 8:13). Just as Lord told Jeremiah above that it woukd not be like the covenant He made with the Jews when he brought them out of Egypt. 

[Daniel Marsh]

Could others give a brief summary of what I missed, please.

[Fidei Defensor]

57 minutes ago, Daniel Marsh said:

Could others give a brief summary of what I missed, please.

There had been debate about The Trinity (Godhead), Supersessionism (Fudillment Theology), and Christology: particularly how seperate or not He is from the Father in the Person of The Son. 

[Fidei Defensor]

Original Trinity Hymnal, #87

Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to thee;
Holy, Holy, Holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Holy, Holy, Holy, all the saints adore thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before thee,
Who wert, and art, and evermore shalt be.

Holy, Holy, Holy, though the darkness hide thee,
Though the eye of sinful man thy glory may not see,
Only thou art holy; there is none beside thee
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.

Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty!
All thy works shall praise thy Name, in earth and sky and sea;
Holy, Holy, Holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!