A vaccine - really?

[DeafMouse]

You made an assumption, did not go by what was stated.  That's alright you have the privelege of assumptions.  You are actually nitpicking at this point.  I have stated what I stated.  You dont have to agree, you dont have to 'believe', thats your right and your choice.  I stand by what I have stated and that is also my right and my choice. 

You are the one that kept bringing up the swab information....

Edited August 4, 2020 by DeafMouse

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, DeafMouse said:

You made an assumption, did not go by what was stated.  That's alright you have the privelege of assumptions.  You are actually nitpicking at this point.  I have stated what I stated.  You dont have to agree, you dont have to 'believe', thats your right and your choice.  I stand by it.

Never mind.  This swab story once again is not a fraction as important as the post you won't acknowledge.  I  am in no condition to argue with you about that.  I am done with you.

Edited August 4, 2020 by ChickenCoop

[LonerAndy]

On 8/3/2020 at 3:38 AM, Melinda12 said:

I do not trust that a rushed out vaccine can be possible safely. 

I watched a video called 'Would you trust these people with your life?' on YouTube by Dr Vernon Coleman. It reveals some harsh truths about pharmaceuticals and how they do things. Scary! But i prefer being informed. 

We must be careful. Soon we may have no choice but to be vaccinated. I am not happy at all that is happening as i feel we are being manipulated. I do as i am told but, it worries me. 

I am not too worried about it being safe... as much it being pointless.

The vast majority of Covid-19 cases, people don't even know they have it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/25/coronavirus-cases-10-times-larger/

The CDC came out a month ago, saying they were testing people for antibodies for Covid-19, and found them in a large number of people who donated blood.

Now think about what that means.   Do you donate blood after you have been deathly ill?  No.  They wouldn't take your blood if you told them that.

So these people are contracting Covid-19, and never even know it.  And only months later, we test their donated blood for Covid-19 anti-bodies, and find they had Covid.

And that's just the people who donate blood.   The vast majority of people, don't donate blood do they?   So I wager that possibly 50 Million people have had covid, and never knew it.

So what do we need to be vaccinated for?    If you get ill, and need to take the vaccine, then take it.   If you don't.... then.... don't.

 

[johnthebaptist]

On 8/3/2020 at 12:38 AM, Melinda12 said:

I do not trust that a rushed out vaccine can be possible safely. 

I watched a video called 'Would you trust these people with your life?' on YouTube by Dr Vernon Coleman. It reveals some harsh truths about pharmaceuticals and how they do things. Scary! But i prefer being informed. 

We must be careful. Soon we may have no choice but to be vaccinated. I am not happy at all that is happening as i feel we are being manipulated. I do as i am told but, it worries me. 

Until we have a vaccine, we're going to have to wear face masks, social distance, watch re-runs on TV, eat take out food instead of inside of restaurants, etc.

[johnthebaptist]

8 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

 I have to disagree with you. there is already a cure/preventative for this virus  and it is called Hydroxychloroquine. The best preventative, however, is to boost our  immune system, which God gave us.

I've heard Hydroxychloroquine is used as a cure. I haven't heard it was used as a preventative. I'd rather not catch the virus so I wouldn't need a cure. I've heard the effectivess of Hydroxychloroquine is in dispute. 

[The_Truth_Seeker]

On 8/4/2020 at 2:59 PM, DeafMouse said:

We got flu shots when they first came out --- we got very sick with the flu that winter.

We did not get anymore flu shots in the years after that --- we have never been sick at all with anything since.

I am curious to know how many critical patients with covid have gotten the flu shot.

 

 

You know, I have been wondering that myself if there is a connection between the covid and the flu shots.

 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, The_Truth_Seeker said:

You know, I have been wondering that myself if there is a connection between the covid and the flu shots.

 

I have never had a flu vaccination in my life.  Nor have i ever had the flu. Yet i barely survived Covid19. 

I have been left with serious lung damage and heart damage.  I can barely function.  I wish I had died. 

[The_Truth_Seeker]

I never forget what I went through last year when I got the flu real bad, and thing is, I don't get flu shots. I suspect when I got hit with that flu real bad, it was from a relative. I myself wonder if I could of had some degree of damage as a result from what I went through. How I got through that is beyond me (maybe it wasn't my time, because I honestly thought my time came)

If people don't know, I think people should is read up on polio vaccine history, The Cutter Incident. It is a very good read. It makes one asks a lot of questions.

My opinion based on what I read, I think the diseases (some of them at least) we see today are mutations. Now maybe they have mutated as a result of treating a disease or attempting to cure a disease and instead of curing  it became worse ? I don't know. Why are we seeing so much diseases today getting worse and worse?

 

 

 

 

Edited August 9, 2020 by The_Truth_Seeker

[R. Hartono]

4 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

 I have to disagree with you. there is already a cure/preventative for this virus  and it is called Hydroxychloroquine. The best preventative, however, is to boost our  immune system, which God gave us.

Plus azithromycin widely used here.

Edited August 9, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Dennis1209]

Here's my thoughts if anyone is interested.

Whom would disagree that we're living in the last days and that a global system of monitoring and control is not shaping up for the coming one world leader to step right into? 

"NOT TO BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES" ~ That's what and how my original social security card had printed on it. Try getting through life or opting out of this system and number and see where you're left. Notice the more stringent changes that were made on travel with the required passports. Is this near one world system and one world leader going to happen just overnight, or does the technology, political malfeasance world, society, social change / acceptance, and the system have to change and be built. Surprise, look at history, the technological advances, posturing, plans and open statements, rebellions, irrational mindsets and changing climates and laws.

Regardless if the coming vaccine is tested and proven safe and effective or not, we see and hear the proposals of making it mandatory, how to monitor and track who has this vaccination and whom does not, and the penalties and exclusions of those who did not take the vaccination. Here in America, look at the unprecedented unconstitutional control, threats and enforcement governments have exerted themselves into. Liquor shops, weed dispensaries, casinos, etc. are deemed essential services; with houses of worship in many cases are "non essential". Many Americans jobs were declared non-essential, non essential to who? 

Those with eyes can see, those with ears can hear who, what and why is on the horizon. The goals and opportunities of the Bill Gates foundations, elitists, socialists, United Nations, W.H.O., central global bankers, etc., are not being wasted on a good crisis and opportunity to advance their long held goals and agenda's. 

Just like no one can participate in civilized society and its benefits without a social security number, I suspect this coming vaccination will be a modification of already existing requirements. Can a child attend public schools with out the proof of the required vaccinations? Can anyone be in the military and deploy-able without the required vaccinations? Can you travel and leave the country without the required vaccinations? Soon it could very well be you can't leave your house, much less travel just to town. 

I propose a technological monitoring system will be set up to track those who have the required immunizations, and those that do not. Those that do not have the mandatory immunizations will be isolated and excluded from society. Meaning, they are banned from personal interactions and presence in hospitals, banks, government buildings, sports events and gatherings of more than "X" amount of people to begin with. By force of law, people will have no choice other than to take these immunizations or be a reject in society, and make it almost impossible to survive, much less thrive.

Is my view and expectations skewed?