Satan

[amor]

So how do you see Satan as tempter in the bookof Job, where he is shown in a strange relationsip with God. Not as the epitomy of all evil, but as a being allowed,indeed encouraged, to tempt Job,to find his breaking point.

6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"

Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."

8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."

9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."

12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."

Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

[angels4u]

Do we really want to dwell on this topic any longer?

We all know that the glory and power belongs to God and I have the impression that this topic will drag on too long for the wrong reason ( to much attention for the devil) and

My opinion is that it should be closed.

Angels

[Karen C.]

Do we really want to dwell on this topic any longer?

We all know that the glory and power belongs to God and I  have the impression that this topic will drag on too long for the wrong reason ( to much attention for the devil) and

My opinion is that it should be closed.

Angels

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Angels~being knowledgable about our enemy is part of wisdom. He is not being exalted by being EXPOSED.. That is a old devil tactic to keep everyone in the dark about his mode of operation... sheesh.. he might hear us..

[Christ's Free Servant]

What's with all the questions about Satan suddenly?

Don't you think it would be a greater benefit to focus on Christ?

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I, too, have noticed the number of threads related to Satan, demons, hell, demon activity, etc., and the only thing I can say is that the closer we get to the Lord's return, the more Satan is going to surface in so many ways. He is working harder, because he knows his doom is sure and that it is soon. At least I think he knows that. So, I think people are beginning to ask more questions about him and about hell because perhaps God is giving them more a conscious awareness of the enemy and his power to deceive and he wants us to know who our enemy is, how he works, so that we know how to defeat him. I see so many young people in bondage to sin and to Satan and he has them so deceived by his lies. And, they just can't seem to see the truth. I wonder if, for a time, God has blinded their eyes so that when he decides to reveal the truth to them that it will be overwhelming. I know the scriptures talk about God blinding people to the truth and hardening hearts and deafening ears so they can not hear. Do you ever wonder why he does this? I think, perhaps, it is so when he finally opens their eyes that the enormous contrast will be so overwhelming that they will fall on their knees before God in humility and will repent of their sin and will turn to God with full allegiance.

[other one]

Do we really want to dwell on this topic any longer?

We all know that the glory and power belongs to God and I  have the impression that this topic will drag on too long for the wrong reason ( to much attention for the devil) and

My opinion is that it should be closed.

Angels

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Angels, it is my firm belief that we are very close or even the beginning of he end times prophesies. I truly believe that the whole world is about to have a Job experience. If you look at the things that He allowed to happen to Job, and we understand why this happened and that in the end things will be made right, it will go a long way for those of us who will go through the tribulation to understand what and why this is happening.

We have been told that the end time powers have been given authority to overcome the saints on a physical level. If we are still here at that time understanding how Job's problems happened and their resolution might give some of us (me anyway) some spiritual help.

I don't see anything in this thread that looks at the evil one in any kind of positive light.

As the evil forces get stronger during the next few years I think you will see people having more of a discussion of how we may interface with it and overcome. It will not be easy as it was not for Job....

My thoughts.

[godslilpromise]

When are you more willing to do something? When someone forces you into it, or when you made your own mind up to do it? Something to think about.

How many people fall in and out of love throughout their lifetime? A lot. Do you think that God's love for us is contingent upon our love for him? We are ambivalent. How many people manage to stay in love with the same woman or man throughout their lifetime? A lot don't. If God is going to save us based solely on our love for him and our obedience, than how can we be 100% sure that we will continue to remain obedient and in love with him for a whole eternity. Forever and forever? We need God's mercy to save us and we are just flesh and bone, so if our feelings are always changing and we are created in a way that we are given to moods and changing feelings, than how can we always maintain a perfect attitude towards God, even if we want to?

[angels4u]

I know we are living in the last days and those are going to be scary days---I know as a child of God we have nothing to fear but when I look around and see so many young people getting into wicca it breaks my heart and they are often very nice kids.

In Canada in the schools I believe there is more wicca then ever before and they mingle with Christians because they don't come right out that its satanism--they believe in co called nature stuff and are very peaceful therefore its easier spread.

We live in a world which is going downwards ad we better pay attention what is going on around us.

Angels

[Guest skyla]

Zayit: Never read that. Well, I am a new Christian. Apparently, though, many have not. Hmm...sometimes I am very scared of God.

[other one]

Zayit:  Never read that.  Well, I am a new Christian.  Apparently, though, many have not.  Hmm...sometimes I am very scared of God.

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Skyla, sometimes we all are..... at least everyone I know is occasionally.

[other one]

I know we are living in the last days and those are going to be scary days---I know as a child of God we have nothing to fear but when I look around and see so many young people getting into wicca it breaks my heart and they are often very nice kids.

In Canada in the schools I believe there is more wicca then ever before and they mingle with Christians because they don't come right out that its satanism--they believe in co called nature stuff and are very peaceful therefore its easier spread.

We live in a world which is going downwards ad we better pay attention what is going on around us.

Angels

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I know where you are coming from.... a very long time ago I let some evilness convince me that the Lord wanted me to really understand satan and his ways of dealing with the world and people in general, so I took up a study of pretty much the full realm of the whole mess. You know... "it's easier to fight an enemy that you understand" and all that foolishness. I'd say it lasted for 5 or 6 years. it nearly cost me eternity and much in this life. Too ugly to get into here.

My problem is how to tell people about it without getting some others interested and have them do what I did just to see if what I would say is true. I promise that is not a good idea. It leads to disaster every time.

So I do understand why you are concerned, it is a very tight rope to walk, but we can't just not discuss it either or some will think that it is OK.

A very tight rope to walk indeed.

Edited July 29, 2005 by other one