Old Testament blessings

[WayneS]

  It seems that many don’t believe that the promises in the OT are often only for the people of the OT. 
However, this requires that we read the OT and pick and choose what can be true for us and what isn’t. 
  I don’t see where in the New Testament that blessings are cancelled. In fact, in 1 Timothy 4:13 it Paul told the new believers to read the scriptures, which was much of the OT at that time. 

1 Timothy 4:13 NLT
[13] Until I get there, focus on reading the Scriptures to the church, encouraging the believers, and teaching them.
 

Psalm 25 says that those who fear him will live in prosperity  

Psalm 25:12-14 NLT
[12] Who are those who fear the LORD? He will show them the path they should choose. [13] They will live in prosperity, and their children will inherit the land. [14] The LORD is a friend to those who fear him. He teaches them his covenant.

Also

Proverbs 28:25 NLT
[25] Greed causes fighting; trusting the LORD leads to prosperity.

Are some blessings stated in the OT cancelled by the NT? If so, which ones and why?

[Who me]

17 minutes ago, WayneS said:

we read the OT and pick and choose what can be true for us and what isn’t. 

Yes there who read the OT verses that promise benefits or prosperity always read verses that are applicable to a people group to individuals and equally they ignore the fact that the blessings are conditional on compliance with OT law.

 

 

[BeauJangles]

2 hours ago, WayneS said:

It seems that many don’t believe that the promises in the OT are often only for the people of the OT. 
However, this requires that we read the OT and pick and choose what can be true for us and what isn’t. 
  I don’t see where in the New Testament that blessings are cancelled. In fact, in 1 Timothy 4:13 it Paul told the new believers to read the scriptures, which was much of the OT at that time. 

I fully realize well meaning hymns have numerous errors in quite a number of them. Mom always loved gospel classics and passed that affection down to me. She often sang hymns and praise choruses even without the accompaniment of musical instrumentation. After all, we were Church of Christ and that particular branch of denomination does not accept pianos, organs, guitars and/or percussion instruments. (drums, cymbals, tambourines) 

"Every promise in the book is mine - every chapter, every verse and every line." 

You gotta love that! I most certainly do!

 

Sensational Nightingales -

Every Promise In The Book Is Mine

Lyrics

Artist: Sensational Nightingales

Album: Miscellaneous

Genre: Christian

Every promise in the book
Every promise in the book is mine
Every chapter, every verse and every line
All are blessings of His love divine

Every promise in the book is mine
Every promise in the book is mine
Every chapter, every verse and every line
All are blessings of His love divine
Every promise in the book is mine

By His strive, the book says I'm healed
Until the day of redemption
The book say's I've been sealed
(According to the same book)
To prosper and be in health is right in line

Every promise in the book is mine
Every promise in the book is mine
From Genesis to Revelation
Every chapter, every verse and every line
They all are blessings of His love divine
Every promise in the book is mine

The book says, "Delight yourself in the Lord
You can have what's in your heart"
It also says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ
He's got a brand new start"
And it also says, "Knock and the door shall be opened
Seek and you shall find"

Every promise in the book is mine
Every promise in the book is mine
From the very first chapter
Every chapter, every verse and every line
Everything in between, all the way down to the end
Every line, they all are blessings of His love divine

Every promise in the book is mine
On resurrection morning
When that last trumpet sounds
And all that have died in Christ
They begin to rise up from the ground
Think about this

Then we that remain and we that still alive
Will then find out that
Every promise in the book is mine
Yes, it's mine
Yes, it's mine
Yes, it's mine

Yes, it's mine
Yes, it's mine
Yes, it's mine
Yes, it's mine
Oh, yes, it's mine

They all are blessings of His love divine
Every promise in the book is mine
They all are blessings of His love divine
Every promise in the book is mine

Hallelujah!

Edited September 14, 2020 by BeauJangles

[R. Hartono]

We cannot simply parroting OT verses such as Psalms n demand God to bless us like David.

Early churches were fed to lions, did David know this.

[WayneS]

15 hours ago, BeauJangles said:

I fully realize well meaning hymns have numerous errors in quite a number of them. Mom always loved gospel classics and passed that affection down to me. She often sang hymns and praise choruses even without the accompaniment of musical instrumentation. After all, we were Church of Christ and that particular branch of denomination does not accept pianos, organs, guitars and/or percussion instruments. (drums, cymbals, tambourines) 

"Every promise in the book is mine - every chapter, every verse and every line." 

You gotta love that! I most certainly do!

 

Sensational Nightingales -

Every Promise In The Book Is Mine

 

great song. A YouTube link https://youtu.be/IdCZGicUWv0

[WayneS]

12 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

We cannot simply parroting OT verses such as Psalms n demand God to bless us like David.

Early churches were fed to lions, did David know this.

Thanks for your reply. 
I agree that we cannot state we are a Christian and expect blessings to flow. 
 

I use an analogy of an army squadron of my perspective  

  Most squads often sit around waiting for orders, not really knowing what is the plan is. Some squads are destined to be in the fight of the battle, some are destined to be on the supply lines, some are cooks,  some are destined to stay in the home country and train others. ALL are needed. All that train well and are committed are well regarded by the commanders and are recognized for their achievements. And those that are humble are especially well regarded by their commander.
  Yes, some sacrifice a LOT more than others. And some make the ultimate sacrifice for sure. God’s blessings on their thoughts and hears is amazing. The other 80% to 90% that make the army work also need to train well, be committed, and will be recognized by the commander.

  The Christians that make the ultimate sacrifice must fiercely have the spirit of the Lord in them. God is taking the clay and made them and blessed them, I would believe that God also richly blesses the clay that became cooks and mechanics and accountants that make the organization work.
 

Just my perspective, thanks for your insights. 

[R. Hartono]

10 hours ago, WayneS said:

Thanks for your reply. 
I agree that we cannot state we are a Christian and expect blessings to flow. 
 

I use an analogy of an army squadron of my perspective  

  Most squads often sit around waiting for orders, not really knowing what is the plan is. Some squads are destined to be in the fight of the battle, some are destined to be on the supply lines, some are cooks,  some are destined to stay in the home country and train others. ALL are needed. All that train well and are committed are well regarded by the commanders and are recognized for their achievements. And those that are humble are especially well regarded by their commander.
  Yes, some sacrifice a LOT more than others. And some make the ultimate sacrifice for sure. God’s blessings on their thoughts and hears is amazing. The other 80% to 90% that make the army work also need to train well, be committed, and will be recognized by the commander.

  The Christians that make the ultimate sacrifice must fiercely have the spirit of the Lord in them. God is taking the clay and made them and blessed them, I would believe that God also richly blesses the clay that became cooks and mechanics and accountants that make the organization work.
 

Just my perspective, thanks for your insights. 

There are poor Lazarus who died in front of the rich man's house, isnt he counted too ?

[WayneS]

55 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

There are poor Lazarus who died in front of the rich man's house, isnt he counted too ?

  Interesting when a conclusion is drawn by looking only at the tough stories. When looking at all the data, many true believers are hugely blessed. God is the potter and can make a pot and out where He wants for His purposes.  I don’t disagree with you that some believers have a tough life.
  I don’t know the beggar Lazarus’ story. Was he as righteous? Was he a religious person that followed the commandments as best he could or not?  I don’t know.  
  We are called not only to be holy and righteous but need to think for ourselves. Was that Lazarus?

 Thanks for the feedback, helps me to think out my original proposal. 
 

[R. Hartono]

59 minutes ago, WayneS said:

 I don’t disagree with you that some believers have a tough life

 

I asked you did David know early christians were fed to lions.

Paul endeavoured to gather donation for the poor saints in Jerusalem. 

Did David ever know that poor Lazarus died in front of the rich man's house n rested with Abraham ?

If this happened to David wud he still write praises in Psalms ?

Edited September 16, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Debp]

7 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

I asked you did David know early christians were fed to lions.

Paul endeavoured to gather donation for the poor saints in Jerusalem. 

Did David ever know that poor Lazarus died in front of the rich man's house n rested with Abraham ?

If this happened to David wud he still write praises in Psalms ?

Sometimes we all go through trials, sometimes severe trials.   But in the midst of suffering, we still need to be grateful to God and praise Him.   We need a thankful heart.   I think it would make us feel worse if we were not willing to thank God or be grateful in our trials.