Is America Under Judgement?

[JohnR7]

1 hour ago, leah777 said:

Nothing special about North America.

We are suppose to set an example for other nations. 

[Omegaman 3.0]

2 hours ago, LadyKay said:

And from what is seems. How we treat the needy and each other, is what  we are going to be judge on. Interesting. 

With severe editing (to identify who is being addressed the getting to a point that might support your comment:

Ezekial 16:1 Again the word of the LORD came to me: 2“Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations, 3and say, Thus says the Lord GOD to Jerusalem: 

--- 48 As I live, declares the Lord GOD, your sister Sodom and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. 49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. 

So yeah, I can see there a basis for which we (the U.S.) and even many of we in the church are guilty, after all:

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler. 16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. 17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4

 

 

 

 

[Omegaman 3.0]

3 hours ago, LadyKay said:

Did you get called a liberal too. 

Not by me! I think the term liberal is a good term, It speaks to freedom, liberty, like the parry name "Libertarian" That is a good name!. When the Republican party was formed to free the slaves, they were liberals. I do not think, for example, that Democrats are liberals, since they seem bent on creating tons of legislation, to take money from people, and to create laws which reduce the freedoms of citizens. I am glad that a lot of people have decided to stop using they name liberal, and have adopted the use of the word "progressive". However, I am not fond of that term either. Progressive suggests that they are for progress, which sounds positive. However, while they are about change, not all change is progress. Like I am fond of saying:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

People on the left are not about progress, but they often are about changing things that are not broken, or even changing things for the worse. I feel sorry for the many good Democrats, whose party has abandoned them and given in to a radical left ideology.

So, I do not call people liberals who are on the left, I just settle for the term leftist!

[leah777]

52 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

We are suppose to set an example for other nations. 

why? what is special about the US?

 

[BeauJangles]

2 hours ago, Coliseum said:

No matter how high we climb the mountain, we are still pulled down by the force of gravity. God will not continue to tolerate sin forever. God is pulling an arrogant, pompous, and prideful America down from her mountain---the gravity of sin is too great. The hammer has not dropped yet, and there may be periods of climbing higher, but God has continued giving us warning after warning after warning. 9/11 breached our walls of protection---a warning. Diseases are causing havoc---a warning. Natural disasters are being experienced in greater numbers---a warning. People are hungry without work to sustain them---a warning. You might be right about not crashing yet. But we do not know the outcome of this election---one God is in full control of. The Democrats are here to unravel this entire system of government---a pawn in God's plan perhaps. They will take religion and Israel with them. We are hanging by a thread---only a thread---over a great precipice. The signs of judgment are upon us. God gave Nineveh 40 days before annihilation; the Word tells us that from the least to the greatest---including the king---repented in sackcloth and ashes, and were spared for 50 years. God will put his Church through the fire first. Are we ready in this Laodicean era? We are barely distinguishable from the world. Jesus told us to be ready, to watch, to be prepared. Are we? Are we in "sackcloth and ashes," repenting before God, praying earnestly with deep humility and reverence before a Holy God that does not tolerate sin? Jesus is our only hope---our every breath depending upon Him. Needless to say this is only my opinion. I hope it is wrong.

 

Yes, indeed. I couldn't have said it better. Good call, bro. 

[JohnR7]

8 minutes ago, leah777 said:

why? what is special about the US?

I spend up to 12 hours a day to read, study and learn. We are to share with others what we have learned about God and the Bible. In college I was doing good to study for 5 hours a day because the subject did not interest me as much. 

[BeauJangles]

9 hours ago, leah777 said:

why? what is special about the US?

If our Pledge of Allegiance means anything at all, it would be this. We are, and this pertains to the ending of the stanza of it all. And at one time it did stand substantially so.

"One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

But, throughout that time of our short lived nation being established two hundred years ago, much has occurred to mess up the entirety of its meaning and the integrity thereof.

 

This is leading towards strong potential of our country's downfall. And furthermore, uh-oh. 

Getting off my soapbox now...

 

                                         And walking slowly away. Okay, that's far enough. Now run! 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by BeauJangles

[leah777]

1 hour ago, JohnR7 said:

I spend up to 12 hours a day to read, study and learn. We are to share with others what we have learned about God and the Bible. In college I was doing good to study for 5 hours a day because the subject did not interest me as much. 

what has that to do with my question?

I just realise. You may have thought I meant us, not United States (US) I mean United States - North Americas

Edited September 24, 2020 by leah777

[JohnD]

On 9/21/2020 at 2:33 PM, JohnR7 said:

 Jonathan Cahn just came out with a new book this month. I have only read a few chapters but the theme of the book seems to be that America is under judgement and that is why we are seeing a lot of the problems we are dealing with. Fires, the virus, civil unrest and so on. He seems to be saying that God does not want to judge this nation but we do not give Him any choice. I did not really expect that this is what the book was about. Actually for a lot of years we have been fighting against abortion and a lot of the things God is judging us for.  Although God does seem to be blessing those who walk with Him. 

Life.

[JohnR7]

8 hours ago, leah777 said:

I just realise. You may have thought I meant us

That was half a post, someone came over and I was not able to finish what I was trying to say. The idea is that as individuals or as a nation we are to be a witness and testimony for God. An example of what God can do in people's lives. Of course we have to know something about God before we can share with others what we know. 

My father was a doctor and so I was raised to put a lot of confidence in science to solve or cure our problems. Only there are LOTS of problems that medical science can not cure. This is when we as a people need to turn to God for help. When we reach the limit of what man can do to help us then it is time to turn to God for help. 

For example if a person is battling mind battles there is a women named Joyce Myers that has written a book on how to deal with mind battles. WE need to have the mind of Christ, we need to be renewed in our mind as we become a new creation in Christ and so on. So with God we have answers and solutions for things that man can provide very little in the way of help. 

So if we are a christian nation then we have God to offer to people. God has the answer to ever question. He has the solution to ever problem. We will never have a question God can not answer or a problem God can not solve. We have all wisdom, knowledge and understanding available. We have libraries in Heaven filled with books that give us access to all of this. 

Cahn just came out with a book this month that talks about these libraries in Heaven. His book actually goes into all of this a lot more than what I am wanting to go into or explain about Heavenly things. His book goes into dreams and visions and what we are able to learn about God even when we are sleeping.