What is a "soul?"

[Alive]

8 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

anything outside of God's Word that suggest more is needed outside of Scripture is error as stated by God:
 

John 17:14-20

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
KJV
 

2 Tim 3:14-17

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV
 

Enoob--did somebody say that something else is 'needed'? I don't see that anywhere. Help me out here.

[enoob57]

9 minutes ago, Alive said:

Enoob--did somebody say that something else is 'needed'? I don't see that anywhere. Help me out here.

I wasn't aware posting rules had to pertain to others post... as one may post opinion without being confined to what others have posted   

[Alive]

11 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

I wasn't aware posting rules had to pertain to others post... as one may post opinion without being confined to what others have posted   

I stand corrected. I assumed.

[enoob57]

9 minutes ago, Alive said:

I stand corrected. I assumed.

The life of God within me is Scripture with The Holy Spirit guiding me therein and for me it sets me free of so much that is here... my responsibility to The Lord is merely to walk within that light  and proclaim upon the rooftops...

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

The life of God within me is Scripture with The Holy Spirit guiding me therein and for me it sets me free of so much that is here... my responsibility to The Lord is merely to walk within that light  and proclaim upon the rooftops...

Yes--this is or ought to be what each of us desires. Also, what each of us needs to face squarely, is that desparate views of what we read in scripture as we claim the Holy Spirit reveals to us---is often different. Reconciling this reality is what discussions can be aimed at along with a realization, that often enough---it matters little in light of what the Lord is actually after--in us.

An individual can be right and also be wrong and can be wrong and also be right.

I think, it is somwhere in that bit, that the Lord sets His gaze, as He does His Work from the right hand of the Father.

[Alive]

Gotta go for a few hours--later.

[enoob57]

10 minutes ago, Alive said:

Yes--this is or ought to be what each of us desires. Also, what each of us needs to face squarely, is that desparate views of what we read in scripture as we claim the Holy Spirit reveals to us---is often different. Reconciling this reality is what discussions can be aimed at along with a realization, that often enough---it matters little in light of what the Lord is actually after--in us.

An individual can be right and also be wrong and can be wrong and also be right.

I think, it is somwhere in that bit, that the Lord sets His gaze, as He does His Work from the right hand of the Father.

Yes the objective fact is God's Word and God says this to all of us
1 Cor 8:2-3

2 And if any man think that he knoweth anything, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

John 14:21

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
KJV

I believe this lack is in disobedience to what is known as God will not give to us more when we yet need apply what He has given already...

[enoob57]

7 minutes ago, rhomphaeam said:

The living Word (logos) - a crucified life hidden in Christ - Light of the world - yet the churches have had the Living Word of God both in its written and Incarnate form for two millennia. And if we have Christ by the Holy Spirit also. We all have to obey God and so you have expressed your obedience. But in the Lord' name, brother, you also have to answer the churches and the effect that now grips all of us because if we imagine that what we have now in so many places is what Christ intended or that mere bickering over words is truly divisive other than in some semblance of a fleshy reaction - then we may have missed what is coming upon us. Mercy of God has to be mercy - but when that mercy is full - and Christ comes for His bride what then? 

These precepts do speak of the soul because they speak of suffering for Christ presently or else being full up and suffering when He returns. 

It is by The Word that all exists... It is by The Word that took on flesh... It is by The Word written in conjunction with the Holy Spirit that we find truth that sets us free from the darkness and evil that is here... I can find nothing more important than God's Word! It is by satan that this becomes confusion ...

[Retrobyter]

16 hours ago, Frits said:

Goedemorgen, Retrobyter

We already knew that the books of 1 and 2 Kings are in the Bible, as well as the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  
But Jewish tradition (!) preserves "chanuka," a story that is outside the canon of the Bible. Adding something to the Bible is not allowed!  (Rev. 22:18)

It is not surprising that the Lord Jesus was also present in the temple in Jerusalem during various festivals. The Lord Jesus was in the temple every day to teach the people.
Everyone can read this clearly in the canon. In Mat. He says:

'Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.'
(Mat.26:55)

Shabbat shalom, Frits.

You know OF them, but you don't really KNOW these books! You're acquainted with them, but not intimately. For you, they're interesting stories. For the children of Israel, particularly the Jews, they are HISTORY! Even when the Jews REFUSE to accept the Gospel accounts of Yeshua`s life, they are STILL part of the history currently being written!

Don't be antisemitic. Remember what is said about Avraham and his heirs:

Genesis 12:1-3 (KJV)

1 Now the LORD (Hebrew: YHWH) had said unto Abram,

"Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I WILL BLESS THEM THAT BLESS THEE, AND CURSE HIM THAT CURSETH THEE: AND IN THEE SHALL ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED."

LISTEN TO YHWH! Your well-being depends upon it!

King David, who also was of the prophets of YHWH, said this in song:

Psalm 122:1-9 (KJV)

1 {A Song of degrees of David.}

I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD (YHWH).
2 Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.
3 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:
4 Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the LORD.
5 For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.
6 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM: THEY SHALL PROSPER THAT LOVE THEE.
7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.
8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, "Peace be within thee."
9 Because of the house of the LORD (YHWH) our God I will seek thy good.

Yeshua` ("Jesus") was announced to be the "King of the Jews" at His birth. (Matthew 2:1-2.) He was pronounced to be the "King of the Jews" at His death. (Matthew 27:35-37.) He was PROPHESIED to be the King of the house of Ya`aqoV ("Jacob") of which comes the tribe of Yhudah ("Judah") of which its members are called "the Jews!" (Luke 1:30-33.) The Jews who were His talmudiym (disciples) had hoped He would immediately become the King just before His ascension! (Acts 1:6-11.)

You and MILLIONS of others call Him "the Lord Jesus Christ," which comes from the Angicized Greek, interpreted into Hebrew as "meaning "the Master, Yeshua`, the Messiah of God"

Through HIS BLOOD, we who were sinners of the Gentiles have been grafted into the house of Israel, the Olive Tree. (Romans 11.) And, through HIS BLOOD, we have been adopted into the house of Israel. (Ephesians 2.) Guess of which tribe of Israel that makes us, those who have become "accepted in the Beloved?" (Ephesians 1:6.) HINT: Yeshua` ("Jesus") to be "King of the Jews" had Himself to be a JEW!

Yochannan ("John") in Revelation 5 told us this about Yeshua`,

Revelation 5:5-10 (KJV)

5 And one of the elders saith unto me,

"Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying,

"Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

The author of Hebrews pointed out this:

Hebrews 7:14-17 (KJV)

14 For it is evident that our Lord (Yeshua` or "Jesus") sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. 17 For he testifieth,

"Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec."

When one comes to the Messiah for God's Justification (falsely called "Salvation"), God puts them into His Family, His Mishpachah. That's not just the nation that was called "the Children of Israel," but more specifically, He's placed us in His SON'S family, the children of Yhudah or "Judah," making us JEWS!

Romans 2:25-29 (KJV)

25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? (He's speaking about proselytes, such as Ruth.) 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Paul, here, is not advocating "Replacement Theology," that is, that the body of Christians REPLACE the children of Israel; rather, he is advocating that we can become children of Israel IN ADDITION TO the natural Children of Israel!

It's not ...
"Children of Israel must be "saved" and added to the Church."

But rather, it's ...
Sinning children of Israel, as well as sinners of Gentile nations, must be "declared righteous" by God's justification, and added to the Messiah's Israel (which is the SAME Israel as David's Israel). 

A "church" is simply a "called-out (assembly)" of people, an "ekkleesia" in Greek.s This includes political assemblies as well as assemblies of other beliefs, as in Acts 19:19-41. If it is a "called-out (assembly) of the LORD," YHWH, Yeshua`s Father, then it is an "ekkleesia kuriokon," and it is from "kuriokon" that the word "church" came, kappa being represented by the "ch," as in "school," upsilon being represented by the "u," rho being represented by the "r," and kappa being represented by the "ch" again, and the whole thing being shortened to one syllable through the passage of time and languages.

There's nothing special about the word "church" other than it indicates a group of PEOPLE who were called out to assemble for YHWH. It's not the "group" that's special; it's the PEOPLE who are special and the GOD to whom they are called who is UNIQUE!

Now, I've said all that to say this: When it comes to the "Jews," it's not "us vs. them";  rather, it's "us and them who are both brought into God's Kingdom, the same Kingdom over which David ruled and over which the Messiah Yeshua` shall rule when He returns, in God's timing for each individual.

You need to EMBRACE that hope! You need to understand, as an adopted child of God, adopted into His Family, the children of Israel, that the books of the "Old Testament" are about OUR history, and EMBRACE them as OUR heritage!

There's no difference between the children of Israel in the "Old Testament" and the "Christians" in the "New Testament"; we are ALL justified by God ...
through His GRACE,
through FAITH or trust in God, both
  in His absolute power and
  in His complete love for us, and
through the BLOOD!

The only difference is that the "OT" sacrifices of animals have been replaced by the Sacrifice of God's Son, the Body which God provided to be our Sacrifice, which the "OT" sacrifices of animals only pictured!

[Charlie744]

3 hours ago, Alive said:

I have long wished to know that 'word', but I suspect that the LOrd has insulated me.

The 'impression' looking at the scene is ---well--not possible to explain.

The result that I think the Lord intended is real...avoid when possible and desire to be a 'peacemaker'.

It is so comforting to hear these very special happenings with the Lord... I believe He may have made them so unexplainable so it can be just be between the two of you / us. When these events happen, whether in a dream or while one is fully awake (and neither event is inferior or superior to the other), I believe He is establishing a place or a place in time or a place in our mind that is truly Holy. These too infrequent events are no different than when He met with Moses at the burning bush scene - Where He was became a Holy ground or place. Moses certainly remembered this event but in no way could he adequately explain what it was like. 

I have also had an “experience” with the Lord some 40 years ago! I can remember everything that occurred- it was the most intense and longest 1 or 2 seconds of my life. There was more conveyed, felt and made known in that short period of time one could not comprehend... but there is no possible way I could explain it! This was just between the two of us and He wanted to keep it that way. 

Even today, almost every day, I can not understand why He would have taken all that time and effort on me. I think it was to show me that He considered me! 

Can you imagine the Creator of all things, our God interested in meeting with me? The information or things He showed me or the unbelievable feeling He bestowed on me was incomprehensible, and clearly not explainable- but it was not meant to be... I think it is like your experience with Him and the experience rhomphaeam has had years ago... for whatever reason, God decided to reveal Himself to each in His Own way and where He is telling us in a manner similar to when He healed a blind man and told him not to tell anyone, “this is between the two of us... I am your God and you are mine - this is OUR little secret”. It is so personal!!!!!! 

Thanks for sharing and since I have been on this site I have witnessed two such happenings besides my own, yours and rhomphaeam’s. They give me the opportunity to relive much of that special event years ago! Charlie