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1 hour ago, Charlie744 said:

It is so comforting to hear these very special happenings with the Lord... I believe He may have made them so unexplainable so it can be just be between the two of you / us. When these events happen, whether in a dream or while one is fully awake (and neither event is inferior or superior to the other), I believe He is establishing a place or a place in time or a place in our mind that is truly Holy. These too infrequent events are no different than when He met with Moses at the burning bush scene - Where He was became a Holy ground or place. Moses certainly remembered this event but in no way could he adequately explain what it was like. 

I have also had an “experience” with the Lord some 40 years ago! I can remember everything that occurred- it was the most intense and longest 1 or 2 seconds of my life. There was more conveyed, felt and made known in that short period of time one could not comprehend... but there is no possible way I could explain it! This was just between the two of us and He wanted to keep it that way. 

Even today, almost every day, I can not understand why He would have taken all that time and effort on me. I think it was to show me that He considered me! 

Can you imagine the Creator of all things, our God interested in meeting with me? The information or things He showed me or the unbelievable feeling He bestowed on me was incomprehensible, and clearly not explainable- but it was not meant to be... I think it is like your experience with Him and the experience rhomphaeam has had years ago... for whatever reason, God decided to reveal Himself to each in His Own way and where He is telling us in a manner similar to when He healed a blind man and told him not to tell anyone, “this is between the two of us... I am your God and you are mine - this is OUR little secret”. It is so personal!!!!!! 

Thanks for sharing and since I have been on this site I have witnessed two such happenings besides my own, yours and rhomphaeam’s. They give me the opportunity to relive much of that special event years ago! Charlie 

THere are many more brother Charlie and each one was for a very specific and pointed reason. Sometimes a lesson that needed to be learned and sometimes for the saving of a soul. The Lord is very good at knocking down multiple pins with a single shot.

Not once has anything like these interventions contradicted in the slightest wasy scripture and has never been doctrine related--other than for personal growth--confirmation type stuff.

He is our Father and we his sons--he very much desires to have a relationship with us. He is a personal and communicative God.

Ask and He will answer--if you ask for bread, He is not going to give a stone.

Have faith--Believe, brother.

Praise the Lord--He is faithful.

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2 hours ago, rhomphaeam said:

You make an interesting point here Charlie. I used to believe that those kind of encounters with God were quite rare and the reason was because I met no one else for at least the first few years after being saved who had a similar encounter. But I did once ask a pastor about that time in my own life and he said that perhaps I needed such an encounter due to the severe nature of my life at the time. I wasn't convinced by his explanation but I do find your comment about the intimacy of God being a residing effect to be very valid. There does seem to be something to meditate in that meaning. Certainly what Alive has shared does indicate that some element of his vision was hidden from him, and so that does give me an impression based on your own explanation that his experience carries some intimate meaning and not simply a prophetic meaning. I think I have come across this kind of thing several times in the last two weeks on this forum alone outside yourself and Alive. Albeit nothing was actually shared. On the other hand I now know many brethren who have had very intimate revelation of God that changed them for life.

Thank you for your thoughts! As you know, God can do ANYTHING and He has no limits..... and if He wanted to give to us something prophetic, He certainly can and would, but maybe He is more interested in us individually? Sort of reminds me when we are given a thick textbook in school... asked to read each chapter and then the professor will provide his teaching... but we will never see or understand that Text like him. But I remember going to meet with my professor after class and attempt to understand a specific and still difficult concept or part of the chapter- others may have understood this easily. But he would always appreciate these visits and was always willing to listen and listen and listen - then he would speak and address the concept. This is a long and cumbersome way of communicating this but it was the one on one, the face to face consideration that was so valuable. In my particular experience God came to me! Totally necessary, completely unexpected, and revealed at least 3 simply unexplainable attributes: His Mercy, His Power and His Love - But they were absolutely tailored for me! They were not something I could offer mankind or begin to share - it was too impossible to wrap my own mind around, SO, this must have been just personal. Perhaps on this side of the Cross He is more interested and willing to come by our desk or schedule a face to face with each and every one of us. 

The Text has already been written- nothing more to say but still so much more to learn and understand. I believe, on this side of the Cross He wants us to raise our hand in the classroom, seek Him out after class or He WILL come to us individually when He knows it is necessary.... It is now so personal to Him, and He is willing to reveal parts of Him that can not be explained so it can stay between the two... 

Just some more rambling since it is impossible to explain or forget. I have (for me) been able to answer s very important and difficult concept within the Scriptures. How could it be possible that Israel LITERALLY seen and experienced ALL the unbelievable powers and miracles performed right in front of them (this certainly included everything from the Red Sea and manna, and water for millions over 40 years to Joshua, David, Daniel, and of course to Jesus Himself with the healing of cripples, the sightless, raising the dead). How could they possibly not see their God and obey and worship ALL they seen and experienced? Well, I know!!!! Despite my experience ANYONE would have or should have turned their life over to God and become one of His most perfect followers and servants.... right? Not me! I just continued on my merry way walking down the wrong path! No, my Damascus experience did not mirror Paul’s— to this very day, AND every day, I am frightened and horrified by my failure to see, obey and worship Him after this experience. The only thing I can come up for the failure of Israel to be changed by all the miracles and power is that God is just too big! That may not seem appropriate or be satisfactory, but in my own experience this was just too much to take in! Fortunately for me, I remember that experience each day and realize IT WAS DEFINITELY GIVEN JUST FOR ME! And I reacted and responded like so many Israelites back then... Even being with Jesus each day for 3.5 years and ALL His miracles, they still could not see God... He is simply TOO BIG that we should comprehend Him! Charlie 

 

 

 


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12 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shabbat shalom, Frits.

You know OF them, but you don't really KNOW these books! You're acquainted with them, but not intimately. For you, they're interesting stories. For the children of Israel, particularly the Jews, they are HISTORY! Even when the Jews REFUSE to accept the Gospel accounts of Yeshua`s life, they are STILL part of the history currently being written!

Don't be antisemitic. Remember what is said about Avraham and his heirs:

Genesis 12:1-3 (KJV)

1 Now the LORD (Hebrew: YHWH) had said unto Abram,

"Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I WILL BLESS THEM THAT BLESS THEE, AND CURSE HIM THAT CURSETH THEE: AND IN THEE SHALL ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED."

LISTEN TO YHWH! Your well-being depends upon it!

King David, who also was of the prophets of YHWH, said this in song:

Psalm 122:1-9 (KJV)

1 {A Song of degrees of David.}

I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the LORD (YHWH).
2 Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.
3 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:
4 Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the LORD, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the LORD.
5 For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.
PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM: THEY SHALL PROSPER THAT LOVE THEE.
7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.
8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, "Peace be within thee."
9 Because of the house of the LORD (YHWH) our God I will seek thy good.

Yeshua` ("Jesus") was announced to be the "King of the Jews" at His birth. (Matthew 2:1-2.) He was pronounced to be the "King of the Jews" at His death. (Matthew 27:35-37.) He was PROPHESIED to be the King of the house of Ya`aqoV ("Jacob") of which comes the tribe of Yhudah ("Judah") of which its members are called "the Jews!" (Luke 1:30-33.) The Jews who were His talmudiym (disciples) had hoped He would immediately become the King just before His ascension! (Acts 1:6-11.)

You and MILLIONS of others call Him "the Lord Jesus Christ," which comes from the Angicized Greek, interpreted into Hebrew as "meaning "the Master, Yeshua`, the Messiah of God"

Through HIS BLOOD, we who were sinners of the Gentiles have been grafted into the house of Israel, the Olive Tree. (Romans 11.) And, through HIS BLOOD, we have been adopted into the house of Israel. (Ephesians 2.) Guess of which tribe of Israel that makes us, those who have become "accepted in the Beloved?" (Ephesians 1:6.) HINT: Yeshua` ("Jesus") to be "King of the Jews" had Himself to be a JEW!

Yochannan ("John") in Revelation 5 told us this about Yeshua`,

Revelation 5:5-10 (KJV)

5 And one of the elders saith unto me,

"Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying,

"Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

The author of Hebrews pointed out this:

Hebrews 7:14-17 (KJV)

14 For it is evident that our Lord (Yeshua` or "Jesus") sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. 17 For he testifieth,

"Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec."

When one comes to the Messiah for God's Justification (falsely called "Salvation"), God puts them into His Family, His Mishpachah. That's not just the nation that was called "the Children of Israel," but more specifically, He's placed us in His SON'S family, the children of Yhudah or "Judah," making us JEWS!

Romans 2:25-29 (KJV)

25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. 26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? (He's speaking about proselytes, such as Ruth.) 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Paul, here, is not advocating "Replacement Theology," that is, that the body of Christians REPLACE the children of Israel; rather, he is advocating that we can become children of Israel IN ADDITION TO the natural Children of Israel!

It's not ...
"Children of Israel must be "saved" and added to the Church."

But rather, it's ...
Sinning children of Israel, as well as sinners of Gentile nations, must be "declared righteous" by God's justification, and added to the Messiah's Israel (which is the SAME Israel as David's Israel). 

A "church" is simply a "called-out (assembly)" of people, an "ekkleesia" in Greek.s This includes political assemblies as well as assemblies of other beliefs, as in Acts 19:19-41. If it is a "called-out (assembly) of the LORD," YHWH, Yeshua`s Father, then it is an "ekkleesia kuriokon," and it is from "kuriokon" that the word "church" came, kappa being represented by the "ch," as in "school," upsilon being represented by the "u," rho being represented by the "r," and kappa being represented by the "ch" again, and the whole thing being shortened to one syllable through the passage of time and languages.

There's nothing special about the word "church" other than it indicates a group of PEOPLE who were called out to assemble for YHWH. It's not the "group" that's special; it's the PEOPLE who are special and the GOD to whom they are called who is UNIQUE!

Now, I've said all that to say this: When it comes to the "Jews," it's not "us vs. them";  rather, it's "us and them who are both brought into God's Kingdom, the same Kingdom over which David ruled and over which the Messiah Yeshua` shall rule when He returns, in God's timing for each individual.

You need to EMBRACE that hope! You need to understand, as an adopted child of God, adopted into His Family, the children of Israel, that the books of the "Old Testament" are about OUR history, and EMBRACE them as OUR heritage!

There's no difference between the children of Israel in the "Old Testament" and the "Christians" in the "New Testament"; we are ALL justified by God ...
through His GRACE,
through FAITH or trust in God, both
  in His absolute power and
  in His complete love for us, and
through the BLOOD!

The only difference is that the "OT" sacrifices of animals have been replaced by the Sacrifice of God's Son, the Body which God provided to be our Sacrifice, which the "OT" sacrifices of animals only pictured!

@Retrobyter

The state of Israel in the Middle East no longer plays any role in God's way of salvation. My Bible says about this:

'Therefore I say to you, The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a people producing its fruits.' (Mat.21: 43)

It was the Lord Jesus who spoke these words. Up to the present day He never revoked them.

And about Jerusalem, the religious heart of ME Israel,  the Lord Jesus said:

'Behold, your house is left desolate to you." (Mat.23: 38)
The Master never revoked this statement either.

So please stop the false sentiment about a people who - except for a 'remnant' - want to know nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Of course, 'all the families of the earth will be blessed' in Abram, because Jesus Christ is rightly called the Son of Abraham!  Thus, if anyone is willing to accept this Son of Abraham Jesus Christ as God, he can receive His blessings.
No one is excluded that meets this condition.

As for entering the Kingdom of God,
no one at all enters the Kingdom of God, unless the Lord Jesus Christ is accepted as God.  Period.  The Lord Jesus is the only door to God's Kingdom.
When we read what John 10:9 and 14:6 says, it is immediately clear to everyone that your statements are not true.

As long as Judaism has existed, it has never been able to justify one human being before God.
And that's not possible either, because no one at all is justified, who would not accept the substitute Sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ.


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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Frits said:

@Retrobyter

The state of Israel in the Middle East no longer plays any role in God's way of salvation. My Bible says about this:

'Therefore I say to you, The kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a people producing its fruits.' (Mat.21: 43)

It was the Lord Jesus who spoke these words. Up to the present day He never revoked them.

And about Jerusalem, the religious heart of ME Israel,  the Lord Jesus said:

'Behold, your house is left desolate to you." (Mat.23: 38)
The Master never revoked this statement either.

So please stop the false sentiment about a people who - except for a 'remnant' - want to know nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Of course, 'all the families of the earth will be blessed' in Abram, because Jesus Christ is rightly called the Son of Abraham!  Thus, if anyone is willing to accept this Son of Abraham Jesus Christ as God, he can receive His blessings.
No one is excluded that meets this condition.

As for entering the Kingdom of God,
no one at all enters the Kingdom of God, unless the Lord Jesus Christ is accepted as God.  Period.  The Lord Jesus is the only door to God's Kingdom.
When we read what John 10:9 and 14:6 says, it is immediately clear to everyone that your statements are not true.

As long as Judaism has existed, it has never been able to justify one human being before God.
And that's not possible either, because no one at all is justified, who would not accept the substitute Sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Frits, I certainly agree with you that there is One, Jesus Christ who is able to save each of us... no religion or no mountain of kind and caring works will do. Further, I believe everyone will agree with your two references in Matthew which clearly speaks of the loses to be felt by the Jews, as well as your two references in John confirming that Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father.

I certainly may be wrong here and perhaps reading into your response above something that is not there, but it comes across to me there is a fair amount of discomfort you may have with the Jewish people. If that statement is inappropriate, I apologize, but at the very least it seems you may feel they have done their part in history, they failed miserably, they deserve whatever punishment from God for their refusal to accept Jesus as their Messiah, and they have almost no purpose in the salvation of man. As you are well aware there are also more than a few relevant verses that speak to this with one of the most known is found in Genesis 12:3 ,“I will bless those who bless you ....”. I think you will agree the Master has never revoked this statement!

 Personally, I have the believe that so many folks still have an anger, dislike or hatred for the Jewish people. Unfortunately, the world has always been able and willing to generate and act on a long and ugly laundry list of issues aimed at them. Until the very end of time they will have a yellow Star of David sewn to their chest, a number tattooed on their arm and a permanent bullseye on their back....BUT Genesis 12:3 will always be in God’s heart and mind.

 I can not begin to imagine what they have been subjected to over their history. Here is a group of people who were handpicked by God Himself. Their mission was to go against every known religion or practice (multiple gods, sacrificing their own children to their gods by placing them on burning alters, sodomy, all types of sinful behaviors. They were asked to obey and worship an invisible and single entity as their God. This new religion called for treating others as they would want to be treated, and man was made in the image of God- all man are equal and a gazillon new practices and beliefs never heard or seen prior to their time

They were told they must obey His Commandments and follow the Words written in the Scriptures...Trust in this One and Only invisible God who is seemingly so demanding, strict and perhaps unforgiving at times.

These people had to, in a very real way, wrestle with God (Jacob) on a daily basis. They would receive a grade, if you will, each day - from their God, the Creator of all things. Who could possibly live up to His requirements? Who would even agree to be subjected to this way of life? How can anyone meet or honor His Commandments even for one day? 

They were given a truly impossible assignment! There is no way they could possibly succeed or even come close to succeeding. And as we all know, they did in fact fail over and over and over in spectacular fashion! However, can anyone possibly make a case for any other people who would have failed less? (Sorry for putting it this way... ).  It is utterly incomprehensible that any other group of people could have succeeded in a struggle with God - their failures would easily have eclipsed the Jews- however, I don’t believe any other people would have been willing to last or stay on day with the Lord. 

Again, this was a no win situation for them yet they continued with their mission. And no group of people on earth has had to pay the price for accepting this mission- a tremendous price at the hand of God and from all other peoples of the world. They have been demonized, killed / murdered, ridiculed, ostracized, isolated, victimized and so much more each and every century of their existence - and it all because they accepted to try and obey and worship the One True God. Again, they have failed miserably!!!!! But thank God they were willing to pay the price that I am sure I would not want to pay! In a way they are a type and shadow of the Messiah...the Jews have and will continue to pay a price for introducing and honoring the One True God to the World, and of course, Jesus would pay the price for all our sins! 

We are receiving all the benefits for our salvation because of the price the Jews paid, and still are, for revealing to us the One True God. And to add insult to injury, they were simply unable to recognize this One True God as their Messiah when He came to earth...How could they not recognize Him? After all, the Scriptures did for tell of His coming in much detail! Why that was / is just unacceptable and they must pay for this as well! No salvation for you- one eternity! (Taken from the Seinfeld series with the “soup nazi”). 

Now back to your comment- no, we do not need the Jews or Judaism or another Temple to be saved- we only need Jesus, but do you think God will ever forget what they have gone through and who played such a spectacular part in His Plan of Salvation? I don’t think so...there will always be a most special place in His Heart for His people. Even at the end of time they will still be a big part in His Plan—we should look at them for timing...and unfortunately, I believe they still will have to pay even more before all is done! But in the end, they too, like Jesus will return! They will no longer be a shadow but a light! I hope there is nothing here that offends you and also that I am not attempting to preach to you or anyone... I wanted to simply respond to your latest post, thanks, Charlie 

 

 

 

 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

you may have with the Jewish people. If that statement is inappropriate, I apologize

Hi Charlie,

On the contrary my brother, you don't have to apologize.  Since 1986 I have my own clothing company and I do almost all business with Jewish people. I like Jewish people very much, they are smart in trade, intelligent and always correct to me.  My wife's family comes from a Jewish family from Amsterdam.
However, it is an error that these people still have a 'special place' with God.  That was certainly the case in the OT. Whoever wants to get his place with God the Father will have to go to the Lord Jesus, whether you belong to an Israeli, an American, a Portuguese, a Russian, a Chinese, or any other nation.  There is no more distinction.

"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him." 
(Rom.10:12)

God bless you!
 

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19 minutes ago, rhomphaeam said:

Charlie may be easily encouraged by your 'these people' explanation, but I am not. And no doubt it may very well not matter to you either. You make a grave mistake to speak of liking Jews because of their trade and decency to family life and then dismiss the entirety of history and the undoubted effect of the disobedience of Israel on Israel by the hand of God and endlessly by the hand of the gentle nations. The Church has a responsibility to be compassionate and merciful to Israel in as much as Israel has the capacity to run rings around most others precisely because they have the Law and the Prophets. They may not have Christ as a people, but one day they will. If you refuse that you are in truth refusing Israel entirely. In which case you may as well refuse Christ and go and spend your hard earned income on Frietjes en mayonaise met kip and bier. And if you did the Jewish customers you so value would still buy your clothes as long as you were sober when you spoke to their wives and daughters. Shalom.

No @rhomphaeam,

I buy clothes from Jewish traders, I don't sell anything to them.  And by the way, I am sober every day.

May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you.
 


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29 minutes ago, rhomphaeam said:

It's how many folks make their money and profit. So the same moral dilemma remains.

But I give my money to Jewish people, who benefits from whom?


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2 hours ago, rhomphaeam said:

I could recommend the ministry of Art Katz 

http://artkatzministries.org/category/articles/israel-and-the-church-articles/

A Messianic Jew, a former Communist and Atheist and a truly gifted and blessed man in his ministry. 

2Co 1:20 KJV

For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

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Sorry, for me the Lord Jesus Christ is enough.

God bless.


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22 hours ago, enoob57 said:

It is by The Word that all exists... It is by The Word that took on flesh... It is by The Word written in conjunction with the Holy Spirit that we find truth that sets us free from the darkness and evil that is here... I can find nothing more important than God's Word! It is by satan that this becomes confusion ...

Shalom, "enoob57" (Steven).

See, THIS is what this topic is about! You said, "The Word that took on flesh." That's wrong according to the Scriptures. I just heard a "preacher/worship leader" say "The Word had taken on flesh...." That's wrong according to the Scriptures. Let's be EXACT in our understanding of the Scriptures!

The Scriptures say this:

John 1:1-18 (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The Greek (transliterated) of that phrase in verse 14 is "ho Logos sarx egeneto." He didn't "take on" ANYTHING! He BECAME flesh! It's an aorist-tense, indicative-case, middle-voice verb that reflects the third-person, singular word "Logos."

And, to say that He "took on flesh" is to make the SAME MISTAKE as most make when reading Genesis 2:7!

Genesis 2:7 (KJV)

7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The LORD God (YHWH Elohiym) formed MAN - NOT the "body of the man" - of the dust of the ground! Then, the LORD God breathed into his nostrils the puff of living things! That's how God chose to begin the breathing process! And, THEN, man BECAME a living nefesh! a living air-breathing-creature! ("Creature" in the sense of a "created being.") And, this is the FIRST TIME in the Bible that the word "soul" was used for a human being! Thus, this is the FIRST TIME that the word "soul" is defined, and it MEANS an "air-breathing-creature!"

"Nefesh" means an "air-breathing-creature," because "nefesh" comes from the Hebrew root word "naafash" which means "to breathe (air)!" That's just the truth of the Hebrew language! ONE SOURCE that we Christians have readily available is "The Dictionary of the Hebrew and Chaldee Languages" of Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible:

5315 nefesh nephesh (neh'-fesh). From naafash; properly, a breathing creature, i.e. Animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental)
-- any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead(-ly), desire, X (dis-)contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart(-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-)self, them (your)-selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it. 

5314 naafash naphash (naw-fash'). A primitive root; to breathe; passively, to be breathed upon, i.e. (figuratively) refreshed (as if by a current of air)
-- (be) refresh selves (-ed).

So, what happens to the "soul" when the MAN stops breathing?

Edited by Retrobyter
to be more exact in my own wording

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17 minutes ago, Retrobyter said:

So, what happens to the "soul" when the MAN stops breathing?

Can we ask it this way?

What happens to that singular individual personality?

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